Beloved Chicago muffler store owner city’s fifth homicide of new year (weapon, death)
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Chicago has always had strict gun control and a plethora of anti-gun politicans. I live there for several decades; it was illegal to even have a handgun in city limits. You could legally buy a handgun but were supposed to store it outside of city limits. In Chicago you could expect to be a crime victim at least every other year. I had two cars stolen, was burglarized twice, and robbed on the street once.
Do you think your experience is typical? Would owning a gun prevented the crime you experienced?
Gun laws don't really correlate to something like the murder rate. Chicago's murder rate is pretty bad, but it's not nearly the worst among larger American cities, most of which have far more relaxed firearms laws.
Do you think your experience is typical? Would owning a gun prevented the crime you experienced?
Yeah I think my experience was fairly typical. Crime was rampant, and most of it was never reported. Burglaries and muggings were especially common.
Owning a gun would not have prevented any of the crimes I experienced (with the possible exception of when I was robbed on the street). But I do think an armed populace could have discouraged the crimes from even being attempted.
Here in Seattle I have rarely experienced what I did in Chicago. One time while working at a retail place a guy tried to rob me. I told him too buzz off, and he did. I had my Glock 19 in my IWB holster, and I guess he figured that might be the case. I didn't even have to draw it. That is the difference between Chicago and Seattle.
Just another day in Paradise and acceptance of killings in Chicago.
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A revered Chicago muffler shop owner became the city’s fifth homicide of 2013, but not before calling his son to let him know he was shot, MyFoxChicago.com reported.
"They shot me in the back," Michael Kozel, 57, the owner Independent Muffler Shop in the city's Southwest Side, told his adult son. Those were his last words he said.
The son, who wished to remain anonymous, said he raced to his dad's shop, only to find Kozel in the back of an ambulance. Kozel was pronounced dead shortly after 9 p.m., according to the Cook County Medical Examiner's office.
What are you guys writing about. Chicago is not the worse. You have to consider the size of the city. You also have to consider many firearms are coming from Kentucky and Mississippi and outside the city. There are many cities that have liberal firearm laws where the murder rate is higher than Chicago.
But handguns are ILLEGAL in Chicago!
They simply can't bring guns in from outside. It's unlawful. Criminals always follow the law. Maybe they need more laws....ones that criminals will follow.
Oh....name ONE city with lax fire arms laws that has a higher gun murder rate than Chicago.
They simply can't bring guns in from outside. It's unlawful. Criminals always follow the law. Maybe they need more laws....ones that criminals will follow.
Oh....name ONE city with lax fire arms laws that has a higher gun murder rate than Chicago.
There are none.
Actually there aren't enough cops on the streets of Southside Chicago to catch every criminal carrying a hand gun. I hate to say it, but I think the stop and frisk, as much of a violation it would be with racial profiling, might actually be effective in parts of Chicago.
They simply can't bring guns in from outside. It's unlawful. Criminals always follow the law. Maybe they need more laws....ones that criminals will follow.
Oh....name ONE city with lax fire arms laws that has a higher gun murder rate than Chicago.
There are none.
Guns are not illegal in Chicago, you need to educate yourself.
Gary, Indiana and East Chicago Indiana have much more lenient gun laws and their homicide rate is much much higher than Chicago.
I grew up in KY and the murder rates in some of the cities here are much higher than most of Chicago. I've been in both places and while Chicago has its issues, so do many other American cities. The issue has more to do with oppression and the drug trade, than geographical location.
Chicago isn't violent simply because its Chicago. It's violent because of various social issues in some of its poorer neighborhoods. There's reasons why the murder rates are almost non-existent in many of the wealthier North Side neighborhoods.
Black cities/neighborhoods equal high gun murder rates.
That point cannot be argued.
The good citizens in these neighborhoods should have the right to carry, conceal, shoot.
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