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Old 01-10-2013, 12:06 PM
 
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I just WONDER, you have to wonder. . .are these people who post these things so clueless about the facts, ignorant, or just willfully malicious?

When you are talking gun control, what are you talking about?Obviously a states legislation on gun is unlikely to have an impact (well unless its something like a mandatory 10 year sentence for non-registered firearm or something)

I think any gun you see in the below, from what I was reading in another article, was bought legally and then sold to the criminal. . .usually in a near-by state/countryside (i.e. Indiana, Ohio, Wisconsin)


As long as we had a rule that said "you own the gun, its registered to you. If you sale it, you must register to the next person. If used in a crime and you didn't have it re-registered your an auto-accomplice to the crime. If you lose/get it stolen, and its used in a crime your f'd. . .so don't lose it"

That would do it, I think. . .gun control solved.
So really what data to you have to show that ALL GUNS are registered and sold to the criminal? We will all be waiting on that from you.

There are stolen guns which are a big market and yes they were once registered legal at one time then there are guns obtained from serious criminals who can even (gasp) get them from a criminal element out of this country (gasp again) like Fast and Furious from our own occupant of the White House and his minions!
So I think the one who is spewing talking points is people like you.
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Old 02-14-2013, 10:52 AM
 
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Good read-

New Geography- Why Are There So Many Murders In Chicago?

It's impossible to say for certain what is causing Chicago's unique murder problem, but a few possibilities suggest themselves.
  1. The number of police officers
  2. Police tactics
  3. Politically controlled policing
  4. William Bratton
  5. Gang fragmentation
  6. Depopulation
  7. Public housing demolitions

The first comment mentions an obvious possibility but is ignored in the article: the city's demographics.


Another view-

America Doesn’t Have a Gun Problem, It Has a Gang Problem.
So what is happening in Chicago to drive it to the gates of hell ahead of Zimbabwe and Rwanda?

A breakdown of the Chicago killing fields shows that 83% of those murdered in Chicago last year had criminal records. In Philly, it’s 75%. In Milwaukee it’s 77% percent. In New Orleans, it’s 64%. In Baltimore, it’s 91%. Many were felons who had served time. And as many as 80% of the homicides were gang related.

Chicago’s problem isn’t guns; it’s gangs. Gun control efforts in Chicago or any other major city are doomed because gangs represent organized crime networks which stretch down to Mexico, and trying to cut off their gun supply will be as effective as trying to cut off their drug supply.

America’s murder rate isn’t the work of the suburban and rural homeowners who shop for guns at sporting goods stores and at gun shows, and whom news shows profile after every shooting, but by the gangs embedded in the urban areas controlled by the Democratic machine. The gangs who drive up America’s murder rate look nothing like the occasional mentally ill suburban white kid who goes off his medication and decides to shoot up a school. Lanza, like most serial killers, is a media aberration, not the norm.

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Old 02-14-2013, 10:53 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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The link didn't work, nevermind, the second link works.
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