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Old 01-07-2013, 11:34 AM
 
Location: Madison, WI
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This is just ridiculous. Gay marriage isn't a threat to the American family. Straight couples treating each other like Mod cut: language. is what is threatening the American family. Men and women disrespecting one another, and the messy divorces that result, is a threat to the American family. Divorce settlements in which men are required to pay large sums of so-called "child support" money in court fees that doesn't even go to the children, these are the things ruining the American family.

Husbands and wives, if you feel like your family is being threatened, i suggest you take a look in the mirror at how you are treating each other. What some random gay couple does behind closed doors isn't causing any threat to your family.

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Old 01-14-2013, 10:52 AM
 
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You are absolutely correct! BUT...when you have children (straight or gay) lately, I have been concerned. Yes, there are many post regarding this, with most post "sounding" politically correct. My daughter is ten. She's asking questions about liking someone of the same sex, talking with girls at school. She's actually "married " to her best (girl) friend...had a wedding ceremony during recess. Please don't tell me to tell her it's OK to love whomever you want. Love is love. I did. But now, I am having second thoughts, thinking she may be confused, growing up. Any thoughts? Or am I being paranoid.
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Old 01-14-2013, 11:06 AM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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lori, she is just exploring her self. If she is a lesbian, there is nothing you can do, if she is straight, there is nothing you can do. Let her be. If you go on and on about how terrible it is, or disgusting, or perverted, and she is a lesbian, she will internalize your words. This is a reason that there is so much suicide, and self harming (drugs and alcohol abuse) in the LGBT community. We are told daily, sometimes by our own parents, how awful we are, how would you feel about yourself in such a circumstance?
Just tell her you love her unconditionally. Next week she'll have a "husband" the following week who knows.
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Old 01-14-2013, 11:27 AM
 
Location: Armsanta Sorad
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My issue is them trying to make gay "marriage" legal, which means more government intrusion in people's private lives.
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Old 01-14-2013, 11:29 AM
 
Location: San Francisco
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Once, just once, I'd like to see one of the "family values" crowd agitate for banning remarriage, which -- like same-sex marriage -- is a grievous sin according to the doctrines of a certain foreign-based church that has enthusiastically assumed the role of self-appointed guardian of societal morality.

Why do so many shriek about same-sex marriage but completely ignore the enormous numbers of sinful second (and third and fourth) marriages that takes place every year?

Ban remarriage (don't ban divorce; we don't want to force people to remain in abusive relationships) and then a whole new group of people will find out what it's like to be legally banned from marrying because of the outdated tenets of a specific Christian sect.
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Old 01-14-2013, 11:30 AM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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If you aren't going to go get a marriage license, how would the government be intruding? People who make the choice to get married, are inviting the government into their lives. Why shouldn't I have the choice to do the same?
No one is forcing you to.
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Old 01-14-2013, 11:31 AM
 
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My issue is them trying to make gay "marriage" legal, which means more government intrusion in people's private lives.
Since nobody forces anyone to get married, I would think nobody should have any issue with whether someone else voluntarily accepts or invites government intrusion into their own lives.
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Old 01-14-2013, 11:32 AM
 
Location: San Francisco
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My issue is them trying to make gay "marriage" legal, which means more government intrusion in people's private lives.
Which is more intrusive:

1. a government that forbids 2 unrelated consenting loving adults from marrying each other

2. a government that does allow them to marry?
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Old 01-14-2013, 11:42 AM
 
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My question to the people opposed to gay marriage is this. How does it negatively impact your life or choices and do you believe homosexuality is a choice or genetic wiring? If homosexuality is a choice then doesn't that mean that there will be less competition for your in the dating market? If it isn't a choice doesn't that mean it will eventually be minimized through natural selection?

Personally, I can't ever imagine waking up and saying to myself that I am going to turn gay. Sorry, just like I can't force myself to feel attraction towards every female there is no way I can force myself to feel attraction towards a guy. If I could force 30% of all men to instantly become gay I would... Just means more women for me.
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Old 01-14-2013, 11:58 AM
 
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lori, she is just exploring her self. If she is a lesbian, there is nothing you can do, if she is straight, there is nothing you can do. Let her be. If you go on and on about how terrible it is, or disgusting, or perverted, and she is a lesbian, she will internalize your words. This is a reason that there is so much suicide, and self harming (drugs and alcohol abuse) in the LGBT community. We are told daily, sometimes by our own parents, how awful we are, how would you feel about yourself in such a circumstance?
Just tell her you love her unconditionally. Next week she'll have a "husband" the following week who knows.
Yes, I agree, jrose. I have known LGBT members who have been entirely disowned from their families after announcing they were gay, or as in some cases found out.
I love my daughter, no matter what. I just hate the fact that she is being influenced by other girls in school. I don't want my daughter taught about heterosexual or homosexual marriage, despite our "talks". I want her to be who SHE wants to be.
When she does talk to me, I am very supportive... I guess the "married thing" had me worried.
Thanks for your response!
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