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Old 01-08-2013, 11:39 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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$10 says you don't know the difference between a Socialist and a Communist.
Ah, but I do.

Read Marx - he details the progression quite nicely.
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Old 01-08-2013, 11:40 PM
 
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Ah, but I do.

Read Marx - he details the progression quite nicely.
Translation, I don't know squat.
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Old 01-08-2013, 11:42 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Translation, I don't know squat.
I realize that you don't.

If you had read Marx, then from what I wrote in the above post, you would know that I do, however.

You can't project your ignorance.

Visit your local library and read!
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Old 01-08-2013, 11:42 PM
 
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what is the modern PC word for 'working class' anyway these days?

I suppose we have terms like: staff, lower class, upper-middle, lower-middle, management, service industry etc..

how about a highly skilled car-mechanic - is he a lower class than an entry level school teacher?
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Old 01-08-2013, 11:44 PM
 
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I realize that you don't.

If you had read Marx, then from what I wrote in the above post, you would know that I do, however.

You can't project your ignorance.

Visit your local library and read!
That's a good Palin answer.

"What's the difference between a socialist and a communist? "

" Git a book and read it if ya wanna to know, I aint gonna tell ya"
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Old 01-08-2013, 11:47 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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That's a good Palin answer.

"What's the difference between a socialist and a communist? "

" Git a book and read it if ya wanna to know, I aint gonna tell ya"
I already know - I do hold a history degree after all.

The question is - do you?

If you don't then I suggest going to your library and reading Das Kapital and The Communist Manifesto.
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Old 01-09-2013, 03:14 AM
 
Location: Inwood
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Once we were mostly all workers so no real need for the term. If you were able bodied you worked. Now there is an entire and ever growing class of non-workers so a distinction must be made. I'd rather be a worker than the alternative.
I agree with your point to an extent, but there were many generations that were not "workers". Of course it depends on how you define the term, but many generations of people only applied themselves for survival. For example native americans never worked, but they did hunt for food and use resources. Many African tribes to this day only survive, most likely putting in much less hours then we do. Not to diminish the amount of energy it takes to live this lifestyle. I also doubt the term would be used in the context of slavery. African Americans worked on plantations, but you never hear people say they were workers. In the OPs context I would say he is describing a means for monetary benefit, but doesn't that really mean survival in the Western sense.
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Old 01-09-2013, 03:42 AM
 
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In retail, associate
In service such as automotive, technician
In service such as beauty or barber, stylist
In road repair and road building & bridge repair, pavement technician
In restaurant, chef - waiter - waitress - bus person
In transportation, driver - transporter
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Old 01-09-2013, 04:56 AM
 
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Aren't most of the bees in a colony workers?

The worker bees are also all female - I wonder if they are compensated the same as the male drones.

Concerning the hive - the bees did all build it.

The Soviet Union was supposedly a "worker's paradise".

Sounds like a socialist term to me.
I guess we should start calling the middle class bourgeois then.
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Old 01-09-2013, 04:58 AM
 
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So now people are considered to be communists for being "workers?" Guess that means the middle class is nothing but a communist class because that is a very hard worker class.
Well, if we are going with communist terms, I think it would be fair to call the middle class bourgeois, a class of people who have an overt interest in materialism and a tendency toward mediocrity.
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