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The extremism of the GOP basically all goes back to Karl Rove and his gerrymandering schemes. Once you have 90-10 districts where 90% of the voters are all from one party the general election no longer matters and the only way an incumbent can lose is if he loses the primary. That means they will all go as hard to the extreme edge as they can just to make sure someone doesn't get to the right of them during the primaries. Thus the death of sane and reasonable members of the GOP.
I respected the idealogy of the teaparty. Once the big money got behind it, looking out for their own best interests, it no longer made any sense.
The ideology of the tea party is anti-President Obama. The vast overwhelming majority of tea party members were quiet as GWB destroyed the budget surplus with unpaid for tax cuts, 2 wars, and Medicare part D.
This is objective reality the tax cuts have added 3trillion to the national debt. The wars in Iraq added 1.4trillion to the national debt. Medicare part D added 400billion to the national debt.
This doesn't even get to the bank bailouts that GWB enacted.
The vast majority of tea party members said nothing while Bush was doing those things. Then when President Obama was elected then the debt was a problem and his fault immediately.
The rank dishonesty of most tea party members and conservatives generally about the source of our national debt is sickening.
The tea party never made any sense. Their ideology is nonsense.
Many of us who were once members have continued to sadly watch the self immolation of the Party of Lincoln. The rise of the Tea Party, and the inexplicable deference shown this radical fringe by the Republican leadership continues to drive away voters in the center even when there are no incremental voters to gain on the right. Anyone familiar with the statistical "normal curve" knows that this is suicide. It can only result in a smaller, more impotent, less relevant Republican Party.
Until this point, most of us who have left the party have done it independently, one or two at a time. The process now appears to be accelerating and we see the first of what will probably be a number of traditional Republican organizations who reject their own party.
Conservatives are not interested in helping most Americans. So thry arent interested in governing. The thing that unites conservatives is being anti- millions of other Americans.
Therefore the real challenges that those Americans face are treated with derision and hostility from conservatives, who want more people to suffer to teach them a lesson.
Many of us who were once members have continued to sadly watch the self immolation of the Party of Lincoln. The rise of the Tea Party, and the inexplicable deference shown this radical fringe by the Republican leadership continues to drive away voters in the center even when there are no incremental voters to gain on the right. Anyone familiar with the statistical "normal curve" knows that this is suicide. It can only result in a smaller, more impotent, less relevant Republican Party.
Until this point, most of us who have left the party have done it independently, one or two at a time. The process now appears to be accelerating and we see the first of what will probably be a number of traditional Republican organizations who reject their own party.
What makes you think the neocons wont hijack this group to like they hijacked the Tea Party and drove the dems and indys away?
I'm a Nebraskan, and I know and respect Chuck Hagel. Besides being vastly qualified for the Sec of Defense job, he's loaded with common sense, he's a very decent man, and he's always been a straight shooter. The back stabbing from the DC neocons has a lot of conservatives out here shaking their heads. I think lots of republicans don't trust the party to do the right thing anymore, and there's a big opening for groups that distance themselves from the party, but offer a common sense and small business oriented center ground to the rest of us left in the middle. If the group in the article is just changing their name, it isn't going to make much difference if they still support the agenda of the party, vs. being willing to break free and be an independent voice when the R party is wrong (which, lately, is a lot of the time).
Hagels rhetoric has come around from being a war monger in his earlier days since his voting showed him to be one. Less offensive choice than others. As my man Emmitt Smith said "a leopard doesn't change his stripes". Plus, he does what the President says to do.
I respected the idealogy of the teaparty. Once the big money got behind it, looking out for their own best interests, it no longer made any sense.
They should have focused on a couple specific cuts and put defense spending on the table. They should have stayed away from social issues, would have been much more successful.
They should have focused on a couple specific cuts and put defense spending on the table. They should have stayed away from social issues, would have been much more successful.
Bring the troops home and used that saved money to take care of entitlements. Those entitlements have to change or there will be nothing left for future generations. -the Godfather of the modern Tea Party Ron Paul
Then the neocons like Bachmann took over after seeing the money raised. The result, more of the same.
They should have focused on a couple specific cuts and put defense spending on the table. They should have stayed away from social issues, would have been much more successful.
Fiscal issues were always a ruse for the TP; hence as time went on, the racist signs and intrusive forays into every aspect of American's personal lives became their way of "foaming at the mouth".
Had fiscal issues mattered, they would have stayed focused solely on the fiscal stuff.
Fiscal issues were always a ruse for the TP; hence as time went on, the racist signs and intrusive forays into every aspect of American's personal lives became their way of "foaming at the mouth".
Had fiscal issues mattered, they would have stayed focused solely on the fiscal stuff.
Had fiscal issues mattered, the TP would have become publicly active long before 2009.
If the GOP would kick the TP out, I think many people who now regard the Republican Party with disgust would return to the fold. Believe it not, Ms. Smart-mouth Liberal here was once a registered Independent who didn't vote a blind political slate. Unfortunately, the GOP's embrace of wing-nuts like the TP gang have forced many to either go democrat or else throw away their vote on some third party candidate.
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