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Old 01-11-2013, 09:17 AM
 
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When you hear the term "neo-con", what comes to mind?
New conservative, as in a new way to define what being a "conservative" means.
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Old 01-11-2013, 09:19 AM
 
Location: Somewhere flat in Mississippi
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"Neo-con" is also considered a code word for "Zionist".
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Old 01-11-2013, 09:24 AM
 
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It's a term developed in the 1990s as the Democrat party's drift to the left reached ever farther extremes. Many of the less extreme members started leaving the party and, despite their liberal beliefs, joined the Republican party after they decided the Democrats were becoming too socialist for them. The large influx of liberals has moved the Republicans to the left also.

Basically a neocon is a liberal who joined the Republican party.
The first exodus of democrats fleeing the growing liberalism of the Democrat Party came during the years after the Roosevelt New Deal policies. People who were democrats, but were not liberals started to leave the party, and some of these democrats were from the fiscally and Constitutionally conservative south.
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Old 01-11-2013, 09:28 AM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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The first exodus of democrats fleeing the growing liberalism of the Democrat Party came during the years after the Roosevelt New Deal policies. People who were democrats, but were not liberals started to leave the party, and some of these democrats were from the fiscally and Constitutionally conservative south.
Another such was Ronald Reagan, who was a Democrat in the 40s. He often said later, "I didn't leave the Democrat Party. The Democrat Party left me."
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Old 01-11-2013, 09:28 AM
 
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It is a conservative that believes in big government, but unlike liberals who believe in big government, Neo-Conservatives don't believe the government should actually try to help its citizens.

Unlike liberals who favor a big government for things like schools, roads, hospitals, health care, old age pensions, Neo-Conservatives favor a big government for things like global adventurism, corporate welfare, domestic survelance and laws restricting personal freedom for religious reasons.
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Old 01-11-2013, 09:30 AM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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"Neo-con" is also considered a code word for "Zionist".
The only people who "consider" that, are Jew-hating bigots. Fortunately such people are scarce, though they turn up at times on internet forums.
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Old 01-11-2013, 09:30 AM
 
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When you hear the term "neo-con", what comes to mind?
Anachronisms. Previouos decade nomenclature maybe? Back then it was actually kind of a carefully disguised anti-semetic term.
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Old 01-11-2013, 09:31 AM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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It is a conservative that believes in big government,
Such self-contradictions highlight the confusion rife among the ranks of neocons.
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Old 01-11-2013, 09:33 AM
 
Location: NC
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Such self-contradictions highlight the confusion rife among the ranks of neocons.
Conservatives can certainly believe in big government. In fact the very first conservatives were Monarchists, and you don't get much more big government then that.

If you are looking for a political philosophy that has absolutely no contradiction with the small government the term isn't conservative, but libertarian, or classical liberal. Conservative just means a person who opposes changing the status quo, or in some case wants a return to a status quo ante and favors traditions and traditionalism.
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Old 01-11-2013, 10:24 AM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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It is a conservative that believes in big government,
Such self-contradictions highlight the confusion rife among the ranks of neocons.
Conservatives can certainly believe in big government. In fact the very first conservatives were Monarchists, and you don't get much more big government then that.
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