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Old 01-12-2013, 01:04 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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The fed can't "legally" regulate firearms that do not cross state lines. The only way they do so now is a stretch of the interstate commerce clause. Earlier firearms laws (NFA of 1934 in particular) was a tax law that applied to firearms. It was created when prohibition ended; if something wasn't done a large number of treasury agents would have been unemployed. So, to create something to justify their continued positions, automatic firearms, suppressors, short rifles and shotguns were taxed via a complicated and expensive scheme.
I guess we will just have to wait till the end of the month to see what the White House does.
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Old 01-12-2013, 09:23 AM
 
Location: South Dakota
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Because that is not a red state or blue state issue, gun violence can be found in every state.
No there is no such thing as "gun violence" just another evil "liberal" play on words, there is criminal violence in every state...

Some states coddle those "good boys" like Chitcago they let em out when they should be hung in front of the courthouse...

Try some criminal violence around here and you will end up dead or in jail for a long time...

Must be why they don't come around here...
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Old 01-12-2013, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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No there is no such thing as "gun violence" just another evil "liberal" play on words, there is criminal violence in every state...

Some states coddle those "good boys" like Chitcago they let em out when they should be hung in front of the courthouse...

Try some criminal violence around here and you will end up dead or in jail for a long time...

Must be why they don't come around here...
Criminal violence is an umbrella word, I was specifically talking about violence where guns are used as opposed to knives or spoons or hammers.

Oh and South Dakota might have a low crime rate, but it still has a crime rate.
http: http://www.usa.com/south-dakot...me-rate.htm //
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Old 01-12-2013, 10:07 AM
 
Location: 9851 Meadowglen Lane, Apt 42, Houston Texas
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seeing as states can't block Federal laws, this is just more stupidity on the part of politicians.
The states are setting up these laws so they can challenge any federal law up to the supreme court. If any law doesn't meet constitutional rigor (such as a executive order banning high capacity mags) it will probably be nullified by the supreme court. So it's a preemptive warning for the federal warning to be very careful about what laws they try to pass and how they try to pass them.
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Old 01-12-2013, 10:08 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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The states are setting up these laws so they can challenge any federal law up to the supreme court. If any law doesn't meet constitutional rigor (such as a executive order banning high capacity mags) it will probably be nullified by the supreme court. So it's a preemptive warning for the federal warning to be very careful about what laws they try to pass and how they try to pass them.
Lawsuits will happen regardless, that is why lawyers make so much money.
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Old 01-12-2013, 11:32 AM
 
Location: Currently I physically reside on the 3rd planet from the sun
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No there is no such thing as "gun violence" just another evil "liberal" play on words, there is criminal violence in every state...

Some states coddle those "good boys" like Chitcago they let em out when they should be hung in front of the courthouse...

Try some criminal violence around here and you will end up dead or in jail for a long time...

Must be why they don't come around here...
I would respectfully but vehemently disagree with you sir!
Gun violence is a growing problem in American that definitely needs to be addressed sooner rather than later.

I think re-registering ALL guns is a first step in the right direction.

Just the other day I saw a shotgun slap its partner in plain view in public and nobody did or said a word. I think they were too intimidated to stand up to this blatant display of domestic gun violence. Two derringers were with them and witnessed this public display of violence go unchallenged - I ask you, what message does this send to all small caliber handguns everywhere?

The news doesn't show it but gangs of young AR 15's are roaming our inner city streets causing general mayhem in larger and larger numbers. While gun on gun violence is at record highs, there are also incidents of gun on non-gun violence escalating at exponential rates.

Although the military is trying to prevent this becoming common knowledge they are struggling with discipline issues concerning their standard issue M16A2's. Responding to a Special Report by David Gregory concerning this trend Army spokesman Colonel Duke Nukem responded, "although there have been recent incidents of M16A2's going AWOL and engaging in violent behavior, this is under control and not a public concern."

Although alternative media continues to try and blame humans for gun violence the Obama Administration has publicly responded that they will not be distracted by this red herring and will continue to go after the guns themselves as the perpetrators of this rising trend of violence and hold them accountable.

More on News9 at 10 . . .
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Old 01-12-2013, 11:39 AM
 
Location: North East
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Sweet, I guessed each state that created a law like this, silly Cons are so predictable.
Yeah, i mean following the law of the land is so passe..

Damn laws... who needs them. Of course, gay rights are the only thing important for everyone. Maybe everyone should be made gay by law too.

Leftists are such wimps...
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Old 01-12-2013, 11:51 AM
 
Location: Eastern NC
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seeing as states can't block Federal laws, this is just more stupidity on the part of politicians.

Exactly, and here I though Republicans were for less government. Looks like they are actually for more government if it suits their agenda.
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Old 01-12-2013, 06:54 PM
 
Location: South Dakota
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Looks like Indiana has jumped on board too

They probably figure they might as well invite all the gun makers in commie states to move in and get to work...

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DIGEST OF INTRODUCED BILL

Indiana firearms freedom act. Provides that a firearm, a firearm accessory, or ammunition that: (1) is manufactured commercially or privately in Indiana from basic materials; (2) can be manufactured without the inclusion of any significant parts imported from another state; and (3) remains within the borders of Indiana; is not subject to federal law or federal regulation, including registration, under the authority of the United States Congress to regulate interstate commerce.
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Old 01-12-2013, 06:59 PM
 
Location: Earth
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You do realize that federal laws trump state laws.
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