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Old 01-12-2013, 09:24 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Bingo.
Until the present administration manages to abolish the 9th and 10th Amendments I will have to question your agreement.
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Old 01-12-2013, 09:26 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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It's 8 states + 21 for a total of 29
And that 29 it more than half of Obama's 57 states. I wonder how many leaners can work hard math like that.
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Old 01-12-2013, 09:36 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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And you do realize the much abused Commerce Clause cannot be used to regulate manufacturing and sales that take place within a single state, right?
I would say that chielgirl doesn't know that mainly because she is a strong advocate of anything Obama wants to do in any way.
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Old 01-12-2013, 09:41 PM
 
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Until the present administration manages to abolish the 9th and 10th Amendments I will have to question your agreement.
It's going be a win win either way. All the manufacterers will pull out of Com Block States and move to the ones that refuse to even acknowledge Obama as President. Who are you? Know what I mean....

Not only do we keep the guns...we create NEW jobs that he can't accomplish if his life depended on it, thus fixing the economy all in one trick.


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Old 01-12-2013, 09:46 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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seeing as states can't block Federal laws, this is just more stupidity on the part of politicians.
First, these eight States enacted their respective Firearm Freedom Act more than two years ago.

Second, if you had read the law you would know that it exempts all firearms, firearm accessories, and ammunition from any federal regulation since they are made wholly within their given State and do not effect interstate or international commerce.

Wyoming's Firearm Freedom Act goes one step further, allowing for the arrest and incarceration of any federal law enforcement officer attempting to impose federal law on these protected firearms, firearm accessories, and ammunition.

If people in these eight States want to manufacture fully automatic weapons they can, and there is not a damn thing the federal government can do about it.
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Old 01-12-2013, 09:50 PM
 
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First, these eight States enacted their respective Firearm Freedom Act more than two years ago.

Second, if you had read the law you would know that it exempts all firearms, firearm accessories, and ammunition from any federal regulation since they are made wholly within their given State and do not effect interstate or international commerce.

Wyoming's Firearm Freedom Act goes one step further, allowing for the arrest and incarceration of any federal law enforcement officer attempting to impose federal law on these protected firearms, firearm accessories, and ammunition.

If people in these eight States want to manufacture fully automatic weapons they can, and there is not a damn thing the federal government can do about it.
Don't tell them that. I can hear them cry now....already.



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Old 01-12-2013, 10:01 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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Don't tell them that. I can hear them cry now....already.

Alaska has all the raw materials necessary, from tin and copper to make brass, to molybdenum for making stainless steel, the world's largest lead and zinc mine for making bullets, and lots of potassium nitrate, sulfur, and charcoal for gunpowder.

The best part is that it cannot be federally regulated.
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Old 01-12-2013, 10:11 PM
 
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Alaska has all the raw materials necessary, from tin and copper to make brass, to molybdenum for making stainless steel, the world's largest lead and zinc mine for making bullets, and lots of potassium nitrate, sulfur, and charcoal for gunpowder.

The best part is that it cannot be federally regulated.
We've got steel mills in check already. Finally we will start using our own again. We make racing tires for NASCAR and IHRA....I think we can find some old wheel weights for bullets somewhere....
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Old 01-12-2013, 10:24 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Until the present administration manages to abolish the 9th and 10th Amendments I will have to question your agreement.
Never gonna happen, but you keep wishing.
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Old 01-18-2013, 12:14 PM
 
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Default Your logic may be sound but the Supreme Court says no.

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First, these eight States enacted their respective Firearm Freedom Act more than two years ago.

Second, if you had read the law you would know that it exempts all firearms, firearm accessories, and ammunition from any federal regulation since they are made wholly within their given State and do not effect interstate or international commerce.

Wyoming's Firearm Freedom Act goes one step further, allowing for the arrest and incarceration of any federal law enforcement officer attempting to impose federal law on these protected firearms, firearm accessories, and ammunition.

If people in these eight States want to manufacture fully automatic weapons they can, and there is not a damn thing the federal government can do about it.
If what you are saying were true than the Feds could not pass marijuana laws federally either. Unfortunately they do, and not only that, they use the Commerce Clause for justification. The Supreme Court has ruled on this specifically, and has said you are wrong, as is any state that tries this. You can Google the case specifics.

Basically the Court twisted the Commerce Clause into a pretzel. The Court said that even if marijuana was grown, sold or given away in a single state, they would still have jurisdiction. They further said that was because the growing, sale and any type of distribution, would affect the marijuana market overall, which was national. Even growing it for your own use was covered by this decision, because you would still be affecting the national market for this weed. I know it SOUNDS crazy. That's why I encourge you to do the research. You won't believe it even after you read it, but unfortunately, it's true.

This same "logic" would be used again regarding gun control. You can be certain of that.

Constitutionally the feds have no right to regulate marijuana. You'll remember it took a Constitutional Amendment to federally regulate alcohol.

The feds may have a "right" to regulate the "militia", but I would bet they would use the Commerce Clause again, because that has worked so well as the basis of the 40 year long drug war.
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