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Old 01-31-2013, 11:06 AM
 
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Are you happily married?
Absolutely not.

How is that relevant to the comment of yours that I responded to?
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Old 01-31-2013, 11:18 AM
 
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Absolutely not.

How is that relevant to the comment of yours that I responded to?
LOL Completely relevant. Have you ever been married?
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Old 01-31-2013, 11:24 AM
 
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LOL Completely relevant. Have you ever been married?
Yes. Still am. More than 20 years. I work 2-3 jobs and raised 3 kids. I have done, and do, as much in terms of responsibility in parenting and other areas as my wife. If your husband didn't do this - you married the wrong person.

I think you are young and don't know what you're talking about.
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Old 01-31-2013, 11:26 AM
 
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This is bunk.

Most states are gender neutral on issues of spousal support, alimony, child support, etc. A lot of it is simply a statutory formula.


The protections are usually inslanted for WOMEN because they are often asked to leave the workplace, build a home, raise the family while the husband works, and in the past would get dumped by the husband for a younger model with no work history, experience, skills, etc. to support herself and the kids.


So, blame your loser predecessors, but do realize that the law tends to look at the parties as individuals, not sex.



I'd also venture many of the whiny men on this board wouldn't ever even QUALIFY for the type of guy that would end up paying alimony. That's usually for higher earners, and those who go into a marriage earning high tend to have prenups.
So what if women are often asked to do that? The fact that women are often asked to do something is not an excuse for biased legislation. Because the legislation benefits all women, whether they were asked to do something or not. 9 out of 10 custody battles are decided in favor of mothers. Even if you accept that mothers are better parents than fathers, it's absurd to think that the number is as high as 90%. Human nature is simply too diverse for that. There is undeniable bias there.
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Old 01-31-2013, 11:27 AM
 
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So what if women are often asked to do that? The fact that women are often asked to do something is not an excuse for biased legislation. Because the legislation benefits all women, whether they were asked to do something or not. 9 out of 10 custody battles are decided in favor of mothers. Even if you accept that mothers are better parents than fathers, it's absurd to think that the number is as high as 90%. Human nature is simply too diverse for that. There is undeniable bias there.

All spot on. And no, I do not reflexively accept that mothers are better parents. Kids need mothers AND fathers.
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Old 01-31-2013, 11:29 AM
 
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According to a recent study by the Pew Research Center, young men have never been less interested in marriage than they are today:

"Fewer young men in the US want to get married than ever, while the desire for marriage is rising among young women ... Pew recently found that the number of women 18-34 saying that having a successful marriage is one of the most important things rose from 28 percent to 37 percent since 1997. The number of young adult men saying the same thing dropped from 35 percent to 29 percent in the same time."

It's not difficult to understand. Men don't need to get married to have sexual relationships anymore. "Why buy the cow when the milk is free?", etc. Men are in a much more vulnerable position in marriage today, since they are not necessary for their wives' financial security or social status. Despite the desire for marriage expressed by many women, few show any signs of being capable of long-term commitments. 67 percent of divorces are initiated by wives, most for frivolous reasons.

But it's not all women's fault. Men really don't have to grow up anymore, and so they aren't growing up. By some accounts more than 70 percent of men are addicted to pornography. Nevermind video games. And what kind of woman wants to marry a thirty-something video-game addict who doesn't even own a tie?

When you have young ladies putting it all out there men dont mind playing with these kinds of girls but they sure dont want to marry them. Most men dont want their wives looking like whores either....
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Old 01-31-2013, 11:32 AM
 
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So what if women are often asked to do that? The fact that women are often asked to do something is not an excuse for biased legislation.
Because the legislation benefits all women, whether they were asked to do something or not. 9 out of 10 custody battles are decided in favor of mothers.
Even if you accept that mothers are better parents than fathers, it's absurd to think that the number is as high as 90%. Human nature is simply too diverse for that.
There is undeniable bias there.
No it does not. I know plenty of men who have gotten their kids because they were a better parent than the mother.

One thing that helps men in this situation is documenting everything that is happening in the relationship with them and their kids.
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Old 01-31-2013, 11:42 AM
 
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Yes. Still am. More than 20 years. I work 2-3 jobs and raised 3 kids. I have done, and do, as much in terms of responsibility in parenting and other areas as my wife. If your husband didn't do this - you married the wrong person.

I think you are young and don't know what you're talking about.
Why do you work 2 - 3 jobs?

As for whether I married the wrong person or not, some marriages stay together and others don't. That's a fact of life. It has little to do with whether the people are good, bad, or midlin.
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Old 01-31-2013, 11:51 AM
 
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Why do you work 2 - 3 jobs?
1. I like money.

2. My kids eat a lot.

3. They'll be in college soon.

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As for whether I married the wrong person or not, some marriages stay together and others don't. That's a fact of life. It has little to do with whether the people are good, bad, or midlin.
That is certainly true. But your experiences seem to have made you somewhat cynical about men, at least in terms of marriage.

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Old 01-31-2013, 12:07 PM
 
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Why do you work 2 - 3 jobs?

1. I like money.

2. My kids eat a lot.

3. They'll be in college soon.



That is certainly true. But your experiences seem to have made you somewhat cynical about men, at least in terms of marriage.
You should look for a job that pays what the 2 or 3 low paying ones pay.

I'm not cynical about any gender, and I love men. I simply don't want to be anyone's maid. Well, let me correct that. I'll be someone's maid if they're disabled, a child, old, etc. However, if the other person has healthy limbs, and isn't in a disadvantaged situation, they can pick up and clean as well as I can.
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