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Old 01-12-2013, 01:25 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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The day after Morgan, as leaners say, owned Alex Jones, it seems that a local TV reporter came up with some real numbers about what Morgan had to talk about in that interview. I remember Morgan repeatedly asking how many people were killed in the UK with guns and finally saying it was 35. That little local guy found a different number, not much different, but enough to make Morgan a liar. The number he found was 59.

Here is a chance to hear that local reporter who I don't think ever made it to any kind of MSM site. So many leaners love fact checks so here is one.

TV Anchor Delivers Blistering Fact-Check of Piers Morgan?s Anti-Gun Claims
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Old 01-12-2013, 01:36 PM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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People need to realize that Morgan is doing all this to boost his own numbers, just like Beck, Limbaugh etc do. The more controversy he stirs up, the more people will watch him.
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Old 01-12-2013, 01:44 PM
 
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Why do you care what Piers Morgan thinks?

I'm absolutely convinced the neocons have NO idea there is an "off" button on the television. Must drive you freaking nuts to have to sit through his program before you figure out how to get FOX back on your screen.
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Old 01-12-2013, 02:37 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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The day after Morgan, as leaners say, owned Alex Jones, it seems that a local TV reporter came up with some real numbers about what Morgan had to talk about in that interview. I remember Morgan repeatedly asking how many people were killed in the UK with guns and finally saying it was 35. That little local guy found a different number, not much different, but enough to make Morgan a liar. The number he found was 59.

Here is a chance to hear that local reporter who I don't think ever made it to any kind of MSM site. So many leaners love fact checks so here is one.

TV Anchor Delivers Blistering Fact-Check of Piers Morgan?s Anti-Gun Claims

35, 59, 51 or 24, it really don't matter. It is a really small number.

But lets look at numbers, Roy

USA population: a round 310 million or so.
Germany's 80 million, France 65 mil, UK: 60 mil, Italy 60 mil., Spain 45 mil

Around the same amount of people.

People killed by guns/year

USA: 11,000
Italy+Germany+France+Spain+UK (England & Wales): 1200

The ready availability of guns lends itself to higher bodycounts.

From the Times (London):

"Contrast the 51 people killed by guns in the UK last year with their 31,347 counterparts in the United States, and it’s hard not to conclude that we’re doing something very right. America’s debate about gun control isn’t really about being able to defend yourself – it’s about freedom of a very particular sort. It’s about the rights of the individual versus the greater good. America just doesn’t seem to do the latter".
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Old 01-12-2013, 02:45 PM
 
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Piers also forgot to count his extra chromosome
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Old 01-12-2013, 02:49 PM
 
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Why do you care what Piers Morgan thinks?

I'm absolutely convinced the neocons have NO idea there is an "off" button on the television. Must drive you freaking nuts to have to sit through his program before you figure out how to get FOX back on your screen.
I am also convinced that Liberals expect people to not counter their BS propaganda. This isn't music or movies that people watch mindlessly while the message, more times than not, goes over their head.

No, this is a dude trying to mainline propaganda right into peoples thoughtstream.
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Old 01-12-2013, 03:40 PM
 
Location: NJ
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"Italy+Germany+France+Spain+UK (England & Wales): 1200"

Yep and all those countries and others needed to be bailed out with US blood.

your welcome!

The US kills are downstream of drug and turf wars. US prisons are the center of excellence for repeat offenders. Latest case, the guy who shot the firemen...wasn't the first time he killed. The prison system cultivates career criminals. The justice system, by law, ignores logic in favor of written law and legal challenge. How many bad guys were let go because of overcrowding? How many mentally ill have been turned loose in places like NYC?

Take away the market for drugs and watch the kill rate plummet. Pass legislation that only law abiding citizens obey and the kill remains the same. The drug users enable gangs firepower with cash paid to dealers.

The media isn't satisfied reporting the crime with high level details, they must provide copycats with ideas and strategy as in how the shooters et up the students in Columbine. The media has no restraint except when it comes to covering Obama.

Violent video games are indeed an issue for the chosen few who end up committing crimes. The US military values video game players, as their weapons systems are like playing video games. A nut case wanting to slaughter people in a public place like a school or a theatre has only to develop his strategy playing video games. How else would some of these killers be so effective...they learned how to enter a building, who to shoot first and most of all, mentally prepare to kill. The majority of video player like 'assault' weapon owners will never harm anyone.

Interesting that large cap magazines would be banned to prevent the efficiency of killing, while video games also improve the efficiency of these insane killers. Banning hi cap mags would be as efective as banning violent video games...not at all..... as the one off shooting as in CT can never be prevented unless we are all kept in lockdown 24/7. Then it would be one of our guards who flips.

Any legislation contemplated by the whitehouse/Biden needs to be run past MS13, Latin Kings, etc. If they tell Biden it will be business as usual if the new ligislation is passed, nothing will change except more loss of freedom....... not less loss of life.

Wonder how suicides are counted in the US vs EU. The heirarchical coding system used to tally medical events is not be consistent and the numbers are relative vs exact.

PM is a shill for ratings CNN needs so badly. His insight is a relevant as anyone else, its just that he has an accent and an audience. He and the Ed Show are equivalent....though Ed probably has more fringe elements hanging on hois words.

When the US president speaks following Jimmy Hoffa jr who shouts to his union thugs...'take the SOBs out'' and the president says nothing, the president is advocating violence and division.
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Old 01-12-2013, 04:12 PM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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"Italy+Germany+France+Spain+UK (England & Wales): 1200"

Yep and all those countries and others needed to be bailed out with US blood.
Actually only UK on that list was bailed out with US blood.
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Old 01-12-2013, 04:17 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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Remove suicide and gang-related homicides and our number is surprisingly low. People in those other countries still kill themselves - they just don't use a gun.
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Old 01-12-2013, 04:19 PM
 
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Why do you care what Piers Morgan thinks?

I'm absolutely convinced the neocons have NO idea there is an "off" button on the television. Must drive you freaking nuts to have to sit through his program before you figure out how to get FOX back on your screen.
Why do you care what Roy says? His name is clear before you open the thread, as is the topic. Must drive you nuts to not know you don't have to open and reply to every thread.
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