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Old 01-12-2013, 10:10 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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"Assault rifle" saves teenagers from home invasion burglars | Conservative News, Views & Books

Bad gun! The liberals would rather this kid be killed and his sister raped than have this teen shoot the bad guys with an evil "assault" weapon.
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Old 01-12-2013, 10:46 PM
 
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Skimmed the article; so he couldn't do this with a .45? He had to use a AR-15. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad he used whatever weapon was close to him to protect both himself and his sister, but this still isn't enough to prove to me why one may need a AR-15.
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Old 01-12-2013, 10:49 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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That's the great thing about the 2nd amendment it doesn't need to prove to anyone why one needs a weapon.
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Old 01-12-2013, 11:04 PM
 
Location: South Dakota
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Skimmed the article; so he couldn't do this with a .45? He had to use a AR-15. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad he used whatever weapon was close to him to protect both himself and his sister, but this still isn't enough to prove to me why one may need a AR-15.
How about we give you the choice between a 30 round precision rifle or a 13 round tops hard recoiling handgun???

A young boy or a woman will find the light recoil and superior sight picture of the rifle easier to handle and more important, hit the target...

Oh yea there's TWO criminals to deal with... Good thing he had 30 rounds and easier accuracy...
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Old 01-12-2013, 11:07 PM
 
Location: Wonderland
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15 year old protects himself and his 12 year old sister with "assault" weapon
Apparently in this case it was an "anti assault" weapon.
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Old 01-12-2013, 11:20 PM
 
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How about we give you the choice between a 30 round precision rifle or a 13 round tops hard recoiling handgun???

A young boy or a woman will find the light recoil and superior sight picture of the rifle easier to handle and more important, hit the target...

Oh yea there's TWO criminals to deal with... Good thing he had 30 rounds and easier accuracy...
Once a shot is fired or if one criminal is even hit, the other will flee the scene. I mean that's common knowledge when it comes to robberies.

Its good that they had something to defend themselves with rather it was a AR-15 or even a fully-automatic weapon, but this isn't going to prove why they should be legal. If I had the choice available to me I'd choose the AR-15, I mean thats only common sense though. Thats like saying if you were going to fight Russia would you rather use ballistic missiles or a nuke? I'd choose the nuke, but nonetheless who says the Nuke should be available for use? A ballistic missile can still do damage, why overkill?

Its only human or better yet American nature to believe bigger is always better and that's why some restrictions need to be in place. I know what I'm saying will be hypothetical, but which gun would you rather use a AR-15 or a Ray Gun if someone broke in your house? You'd say the Ray Gun if you had experience with it. So I mean in our society or better yet a conservative doesn't believe in restrictions when it comes to weapons but that doesn't mean they shouldn't be in place. A pistol can kill them, a AR-15 can kill them, a Ray Gun can kill them. So what I'm essentially saying is, you failed to convince me why a AR-15 would be needed in a regular household.

Hell I'd rather have a mingun sitting at my door for any burglars if they decided to break in, it would protect me but does that mean I should be allowed to have that much force on a burglar when I could kill them with something far less destructive?

So I'm not called a FascistSocialistAmericaHatingParanoid*******Prick I want to also say I support the 2nd amendment.

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Old 01-12-2013, 11:26 PM
 
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"Assault rifle" saves teenagers from home invasion burglars | Conservative News, Views & Books

Bad gun! The liberals would rather this kid be killed and his sister raped than have this teen shoot the bad guys with an evil "assault" weapon.
I'm a gun owner and a 2nd amendment supporter, but your argument can be countered with cases of 15 year olds accidentally shooting their 12 year old siblings. So, there are indeed instances of "bad gun."

This case proves no more "good" in guns than the cases of accidental tragedy prove the "bad" in guns. It's more complex than liberal this, conservative that.
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Old 01-12-2013, 11:36 PM
 
Location: South Dakota
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Once a shot is fired or if one criminal is even hit, the other will flee the scene. I mean that's common knowledge when it comes to robberies.

Its good that they had something to defend themselves with rather it was a AR-15 or even a fully-automatic weapon, but this isn't going to prove why they should be legal. If I had the choice available to me I'd choose the AR-15, I mean thats only common sense though. Thats like saying if you were going to fight Russia would you rather use ballistic missiles or a nuke? I'd choose the nuke, but nonetheless who says the Nuke should be available for use? A ballistic missile can still do damage, why overkill?

Its only human or better yet American nature to believe bigger is always better and that's why some restrictions need to be in place. I know what I'm saying will be hypothetical, but which gun would you rather use a AR-15 or a Ray Gun if someone broke in your house? You'd say the Ray Gun if you had experience with it. So I mean in our society or better yet a conservative doesn't believe in restrictions when it comes to weapons but that doesn't mean they shouldn't be in place. A pistol can kill them, a AR-15 can kill them, a Ray Gun can kill them. So what I'm essentially saying is, you failed to convince me why a AR-15 would be needed in a regular household.

Hell I'd rather have a mingun sitting at my door for any burglars if they decided to break in, it would protect me but does that mean I should be allowed to have that much force on a burglar when I could kill them with something far less destructive?
Lotta words, what if the other guy finds his gun tucked in his pants and decides to start shooting back at the kid???

Im sure the kids not that good at tactical reloads and even if he is why worry about that???

The AR 15 is one of the most popular rifles in America, it was born in 1959 and there are millions of em, why shouldn't an American own one???

I know 0bama seems to hate the AK 47, but they work just as good in close quarters, there's millions of those too... In fact the AK 47 is the most common rifle in the whole world, why would an American be denied that???
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Old 01-12-2013, 11:49 PM
 
Location: Area 51.5
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Once a shot is fired or if one criminal is even hit, the other will flee the scene. I mean that's common knowledge when it comes to robberies.

Its good that they had something to defend themselves with rather it was a AR-15 or even a fully-automatic weapon, but this isn't going to prove why they should be legal. If I had the choice available to me I'd choose the AR-15, I mean thats only common sense though. Thats like saying if you were going to fight Russia would you rather use ballistic missiles or a nuke? I'd choose the nuke, but nonetheless who says the Nuke should be available for use? A ballistic missile can still do damage, why overkill?

Its only human or better yet American nature to believe bigger is always better and that's why some restrictions need to be in place. I know what I'm saying will be hypothetical, but which gun would you rather use a AR-15 or a Ray Gun if someone broke in your house? You'd say the Ray Gun if you had experience with it. So I mean in our society or better yet a conservative doesn't believe in restrictions when it comes to weapons but that doesn't mean they shouldn't be in place. A pistol can kill them, a AR-15 can kill them, a Ray Gun can kill them. So what I'm essentially saying is, you failed to convince me why a AR-15 would be needed in a regular household.

Hell I'd rather have a mingun sitting at my door for any burglars if they decided to break in, it would protect me but does that mean I should be allowed to have that much force on a burglar when I could kill them with something far less destructive?

So I'm not called a FascistSocialistAmericaHatingParanoid*******Prick I want to also say I support the 2nd amendment.
Give it up. It's clear you are ignorant on the subject.
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Old 01-12-2013, 11:57 PM
 
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Lotta words, what if the other guy finds his gun tucked in his pants and decides to start shooting back at the kid???

Im sure the kids not that good at tactical reloads and even if he is why worry about that???

The AR 15 is one of the most popular rifles in America, it was born in 1959 and there are millions of em, why shouldn't an American own one???

I know 0bama seems to hate the AK 47, but they work just as good in close quarters, there's millions of those too... In fact the AK 47 is the most common rifle in the whole world, why would an American be denied that???
Well since you want to reply to my post, answer my question. If you had the choice between a Ray Gun/Laser Beam Cannon/Etc would you choose that or the AR-15? The Ray Gun, if built, would be a hell of a lot stronger than the AR-15.

I see that you love the NRA and I can respect that, but I want valid reply on why there shouldn't be restrictions on semi-automatic weapons. You can't say these kids will all of a sudden make Americans changes their mind, it'll just promote that a AR-15 can be a good weapon for all to use from kids, former marines or mass murderers. But their still a problem in this country, and that children can now find guns (such as the kid in CA who shot one of his classmates although he didn't use a semi-automatic, the media can push a agenda on why guns in homes need to be locked better) in their homes and do whatever with them. Logically speaking, I'm pretty sure most democrats can rationally decide that not every gun owner or more specifically semi-automatic gun owner is a terrible person nor is planning on going on a massacre, but that isn't going to change my mind on why they should be banned.

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Give it up. It's clear you are ignorant on the subject.
Sorry, who ever said I was the most educated person on the subject? Not I, I'm just stating the obvious but I guess its not obvious enough for you. **** it; allow everyone to have M-16's because then everyone will be able to protect themselves, that's your fantasy anyways. In that post, I was only trying to establish that Americans always want bigger things. If someone broke into my house, why would I shoot them with a pistol if I can shoot them with a mini gun? Its ridiculous and that's why limitations always need to be in place. You never know how crazy I could get with that mini gun, do you? Just because I don't know everything about guns, doesn't mean I haven't shot one in fact I've shot three before so I have some knowledge on them. My grandfather lives in a rural area and keeps his .357 and some rifle in his vehicle at all times so he'll probably side with you guys on some of these issues but even he wouldn't be able to state why he'd need a semi-automatic other than entertainment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJ8N...UwRLmQ&index=1

Honestly, who wouldn't want a gun this good? Its amazing. Even I, a anti-assault rifle type of guy would want it. But that doesn't mean I should be able to have it. Its kind of a lust thing I guess, you have to know how to control your wants.

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