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So how is gonna be your leader for this civil war? Why are you waiting so long to rise up? Seems like a bad idea to just keep sitting on your hands if we are heading down this path, why not start now?
No the war was fought over fear that a divided nation would make us an easy Target abroad.
Actually, the reason Lincoln chose to use force against the Southern states was he feared losing their tax money. He said as much to Horace Greely when Greely asked him why not just let the Lower South go in peace. The Southern states were paying around 75% of the tax monies into federal coffers and getting very little back out of it.
I have said before that secession may well have been a rash and unwise decision. Many Southern men, including Robert E. Lee, thought so. But whether it was or wasn't is up to the speculations of history. Personally, I think the Southern states had the best constitutional arguments on their (our) side. I mean, for one thing, it defies common-sense to believe the soveriegn states, in the creation of "these united states" would have entered into a union that they could never get out of...especially when they had just "seceded" from England. Another is that it would have repudiated the whole foundation of the DOI. That is, "government derives its just powers from the consent of the governed."
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But since YOU aren't talking secession, then I guess we aren't really talking about anything.
Yes, you are right. I am not talking secession at this time. However, I note for the record, I am very sympathetic to the motivations and rationale of at least some of those who are.
I don't think the Civil war was a constitutional matter. It was an economic one. The English, in their persistent wish to watch their ex-colony collapse on itself, offered cheaper imports costs from the South which upset the convivial relationship between the two regions (North - Manufacturing South - Raw material acquisition). The fact that the North HAD to impose tariffs to keep business with its OWN COUNTRY is ridiculous to begin with. The South was seceding economically long before the war was even an idea.
Lets see how many posts we can get before someone with no intention of actually discussing the thread disrupts it with oh my look at the source....
I doubt that the guys in the van in the little story he told would have cared whether it was a "military grade" handgun (what type? Sig P229? Beretta M9? Colt M1911?), or a "civilian grade" handgun that was pointed at them...
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