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Old 09-22-2013, 06:37 PM
 
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Oh... you poor thing. The founding father's didn't put it on the money, they never even made it part of the government. It was put on US coins in 1864, and on paper currency in 1957. It was made that national motto in 1956, replacing E Plubiris Unum, which was the motto the founding fathers actually used.

As to why it should be removed, a little thing called separation of church and state. This is the government making it's motto a religious motto, which is unconstitutional. Really, does this bother me that much? No. However, I see some problems. Many people seem to belief the US was founded on Christianity. This is not the case... at all. Having 'in God we trust' all over the place only reaffirms this false idea of history, which is bad. The government needs to change the motto back to E Plubiris Unum and discontinue putting 'In God we trust' on any US currency to remain true to the constitution.

On a side note, it bugs me that Republicans aren't agreeing with this, despite their claims of staying true to the constitution.
Oleg Bach is clearly not from the US. You cannot expect foreigners to be as educated as people who went to school in the US in regards to US history.
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Old 09-22-2013, 06:44 PM
 
Location: In a little house on the prairie - literally
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What does it matter to you if God is mentioned on the money? It has no effect on you what so ever...I am getting tired of these God haters.....Those that hate God the most have the least spiritual education...They do not even KNOW why "In God we trust" is the herald on the money....Explain to me now why the founding fathers put that on money.....You don't know do you....YET you want it removed?
Errrrr,.... It wasn't " the founding fathers" who put it on the dollar bill, but it happened during the Eisenhower era.

Seems to me that your knowledge of history requires some adjustment .
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Old 09-22-2013, 06:48 PM
 
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Errrrr,.... It wasn't " the founding fathers" who put it on the dollar bill, but it happened during the Eisenhower era.

Seems to me that your knowledge of history requires some adjustment .
See my previous post. We have many foreigners in the US that are not familiar with the history of our nation.
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Old 09-22-2013, 07:28 PM
 
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See my previous post. We have many foreigners in the US that are not familiar with the history of our nation.
I'm one of those ' furriners'
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Old 09-22-2013, 07:30 PM
 
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I'm one of those ' furriners'
And I respect that you're educated about US history. Clearly, not everyone is. Oleg Bach, for example...
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Old 09-22-2013, 08:01 PM
 
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And I respect that you're educated about US history. Clearly, not everyone is. Oleg Bach, for example...
I think I have been in about 36 States now... can probably name the capital of most of them.
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Old 09-22-2013, 08:05 PM
 
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I think I have been in about 36 States now... can probably name the capital of most of them.
We are taught them in school so anyone who went to school here would know all 50. But 36 isn't bad.
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Old 09-22-2013, 08:35 PM
 
Location: Florida
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We can't trust the value of the dollar.. after all Obama is still printing borrowed money at 85 billion dollars a month indefinitely and buying toxic assets..foreclosures off the books of the banks.... the credit card of the American people will have to pay it.. I don't think we can so we will all be poor or bankrupt. So we better trust God because the money is not trustworthy.
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Old 09-22-2013, 08:46 PM
 
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We can't trust the value of the dollar.. after all Obama is still printing borrowed money at 85 billion dollars a month indefinitely and buying toxic assets..foreclosures off the books of the banks.... the credit card of the American people will have to pay it.. I don't think we can so we will all be poor or bankrupt. So we better trust God because the money is not trustworthy.
That's a pessimistic view. We've come back from worse debt before and we can do it again.

While the value of the dollar may be shrinking, it still has some tangible value... which places it at a value higher than god.
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Old 09-22-2013, 09:02 PM
 
Location: Great Falls, Montana
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Oh...

On a side note, it bugs me that Republicans aren't agreeing with this, despite their claims of staying true to the constitution.
Most regular Republicans don't give a flying f*** about this ... It's the religious right wing dingbats that make it an issue ..

Come to think of it, Most regular Democrats don't give a flying F*** about it either ... It's the daisey-do-gooder-got-nothing-to-do-but-complain-about-everything left wing extremist fanatics that make it an issue ...

Americans don't worry about this stuff in other words --
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