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Old 01-16-2013, 06:20 AM
 
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Obama won't be on the ballot. The social experiment is over and the country will be allowed to fix his mistakes in 2016.

The most qualified person will actually have a chance of winning this time.
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Old 01-16-2013, 06:36 AM
 
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Liberalism will not work. This too shall pass.
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Old 01-16-2013, 06:44 AM
 
Location: Columbus
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from voting for Obama in '12 to GOP '16.

Obama won by over 4 million votes; the projected non white share in 2016 will be 2-3 points higher (it was over 2 this year, and has seen higher increases in the past few cycles). 2.5% more would add 3 million votes, a 2.5 million minimum additional edge to the Dems, even if Rubio ran as the platform drove the exodus from the GOP. That would give the Dems a 7 million edge.

Romney won white males by the same margin as RR 1984; he won evangelicals as well as either RR or the Bushes. The problem is moderates and independents abhor the platform of today's GOP.

Realistically they must be given a reason to change their minds-3.5 million times. If the GOP loses in 2016, future races will be even worse, as within 3 elections, the Latino voting block is 20 million larger.

lols. Since when did we elect presidents by poular vote? lols.

Assuming red states stay red and blue states stay blue, all Republicans have to do is pick up a few swing states. Romney lost by less than 400,000 votes in swing states. And it would have been closer had he not made Libertarians mad by refusing to acknowledge Ron Paul at the convention. He might have even won.

To suggest that Republicans can't win in the future is complete nonsense.
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Old 01-16-2013, 06:54 AM
 
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For the GOP to have any shot in 2016-3.5 million voters must be converted
Or have lobotomies.
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Old 01-16-2013, 06:55 AM
 
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I think their goal at this point is to pass laws to prevent 7 million lawful Democratic voters from exercising their rights. That is easier for them then trying to moderate.
How exactly would they do that?
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Old 01-16-2013, 07:05 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Where did you get the idea that moderates and independents abhor the platform of today's GOP?.
When 48 states vote as 2008, and 19 are blue 24 straight years, encompassing 50 more electoral votes than the 21 red of the same era, it is the party, not the nominee, driving the non-competitive nature of the GOP.
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Old 01-16-2013, 07:07 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Anyone who believes this is a fool.

White turnout in 2012 was the lowest ever..
until 2016.


It has gotten lower every election. By 2016, under 70% vs 72% 2012, 81% 2000, 88% 1984.

By 2020, it will be under 67%, by 2024 under 65%.

Get used to the trend. Adapt to it.
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Old 01-16-2013, 07:09 AM
 
Location: NJ
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lols. Since when did we elect presidents by poular vote? lols.

Assuming red states stay red and blue states stay blue, all Republicans have to do is pick up a few swing states..
They have to win 10 of 10.

19 blue states 6 straight, plus NM & Va now blue due to demographic changes get Dems past 260 electoral with 10 swing states left. GOP starts with solid states under 190 (70 to 0 score start of game-ouch!!) .

Odds of wqnning 10 of 10 = 2 to the tenth power 1/(2 * 2 * 2 *2 *2 *2 *2 *2 *2 *2), assuming a 50/50 shot at each. 2 to the 10th power = 1 in 1,024.
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Old 01-16-2013, 07:09 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Texas goes blue in about 10 years.........then, GOP is sunk when it comes to Presidential elections.
I am gonna love seeing that happen.
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Old 01-16-2013, 07:12 AM
 
Location: NJ
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I am gonna love seeing that happen.
That is the Whig moment unless the GOP moderates to win several of the 21 now solid Blue states.
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