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Old 01-18-2013, 09:17 AM
 
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Does the 2nd amendment grant the right to bare ALL types of arms? Does it specify all types of rifles? Does it even mention rifles or handguns.. or missiles?

Why aren't missiles protected by the 2nd amendment? What about hollow point bullets? lets be consistent.

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Old 01-18-2013, 09:21 AM
 
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What are you talking about? The second amendment prohibits the government from amputating people.
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Old 01-18-2013, 09:23 AM
 
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Does the 2nd amendment grant the right to bear ALL types of arms? Does it specify all types of rifles? Does it even mention rifles or handguns.. or missiles?

Why aren't missiles protected by the 2nd amendment? What about hollow point bullets? lets be consistent.

There is no ban on hollow point bullets. I use them in my KEL-TEK P3-AT.
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Old 01-18-2013, 09:23 AM
 
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What are you talking about? The second amendment prohibits the government from amputating people.
We are talking about bears not people.

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Old 01-18-2013, 09:23 AM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Does the 2nd amendment grant the right to bear ALL types of arms? Does it specify all types of rifles? Does it even mention rifles or handguns.. or missiles?

Why aren't missiles protected by the 2nd amendment? What about hollow point bullets? lets be consistent.
This is the dodge always brought up by liberals who can't defend their restrictions, gun bans, etc., and who know their schemes are unconstitutional.

In modern language, the 2nd amendment says that:

"Since an armed and capable populace is necessary for security and freedom, the right of ordinary people to own and carry guns and other such weapons cannot be taken away or restricted."

Liberals hate that, because it gives citizens power over government. In the liberal view, anything that renders government any less than all-powerful, is unacceptable... though they don't dare say why.
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Old 01-18-2013, 09:25 AM
 
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What's your motive to twist the Constitution to favor LOSING more rights?
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Old 01-18-2013, 09:25 AM
 
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Does the 2nd amendment grant the right to bear ALL types of arms? Does it specify all types of rifles? Does it even mention rifles or handguns.. or missiles?

Why aren't missiles protected by the 2nd amendment? What about hollow point bullets? lets be consistent.

all types of individual arms.
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Old 01-18-2013, 09:26 AM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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Old 01-18-2013, 09:30 AM
 
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This is the dodge always brought up by liberals who can't defend their restrictions, gun bans, etc., and who know theirr schemes are unconstitutional.

In modern language, the 2nd amendment says that:

"Since an armed and capable populace is necessary for security and freedom, the right of ordinary people to own and carry guns and other such weapons cannot be taken away or restricted."

Liberals hate that, because it gives citizens power over government. In the liberal view, anything that renders government any less than all-powerful, is unacceptable... though they don't dare say why.
It's not a dodge. It's a legitimate and important question. What does the word "arms" mean in the context of the second amendment. Why does it mean, as most gun lovers argue, "any and all guns and ammunition"?

If you asked somebody from the 1770s what "arms" meant, they'd probably get around to saying rifles and muskets, but the first thing they'd mention would be swords and knives. I wonder if they'd mention cannons?
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Old 01-18-2013, 09:32 AM
 
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It's not a dodge. It's a legitimate and important question. What does the word "arms" mean in the context of the second amendment. Why does it, as most gun lovers argue, "any and all guns and ammunition"?

If you asked somebody from the 1770s what "arms" meant, they'd probably get around to saying rifles and muskets, but the first thing they'd mention would be swords and knives. I wonder if they'd mention cannons?


if you look at our own US revolution. if not for privately owned cannon and frigates, the USA might never have been free.

after all, privately owned cannons and ships were given to the cause during our own revolution.
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