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Old 01-18-2013, 09:16 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Why do they need to move?
Because no state opted to secede. Just a tiny itty bitty percentage of wing nuts. The majority sane enough not to sign should not be held hostage by a itty bitty group.

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Old 01-18-2013, 09:24 PM
 
Location: NJ
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What don't you get?

The country has been taken over by a socialist who wants to rewrite our history according to his wife. the news media has turned into his propaganda machine. He lies,misleads, reverse positions and is never challenged by the press. Obama is intentionally crashing the economy. Everthing about his is a nebulous cloud of uncertainty.

A patriotic state would be the first to leave obama's version of Amerika and when he is gone we regroup.
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Old 01-18-2013, 10:00 PM
 
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If Texans were stupid enough to secede Mexico would invade their asses in no time and Texans would come back crying like little girls.
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Old 01-19-2013, 02:26 AM
 
Location: Texas
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George Washington, Thomas Jefferson and James madison were traitors? Interesting.

What about when a neighborhood secedes from one city and goes to another? Are they traitors?

Were Hawaiins and Alaskans traitors for joining the U.S.?

What about East European countries when they left the Soviet Union? Traitors?

Seceding to form your own government is responsible if you don't like the way the current govt is treating you.
240 years ago, when America revolted against the king, the founding fathers were radicals. The conservatives of the time were known as torries and loyalists.
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Old 01-19-2013, 02:28 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Because they are patriotic to a country they can believe in. When the country becomes something they can no longer support, their first instinct is to form a country that they can support.
Every time the right wing loses an election, the claim they can no longer support America, it seems
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Patriotism doesn't mean you have to stand behind a government you don't believe in. It means you support the country you have. People who want to be able to live in a country they support will seek to secceed when the country they live in is no longer one they can support. What they believe in is what we are watching die. The American way of life.
Patriotism doesn't equate to sore loserism.
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Old 01-19-2013, 02:30 AM
 
Location: Texas
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What don't you get?

The country has been taken over by a socialist who wants to rewrite our history according to his wife. the news media has turned into his propaganda machine. He lies,misleads, reverse positions and is never challenged by the press. Obama is intentionally crashing the economy. Everthing about his is a nebulous cloud of uncertainty.

A patriotic state would be the first to leave obama's version of Amerika and when he is gone we regroup.

So, Jersey is first up?
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Old 01-19-2013, 06:47 AM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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And if they are loyal to the constitution of The United States of America...?? How will they continue that allegiance as citizens of a new country, with a new constitution?
That's why they inserted GOD between One Nation and Indivisible, so they could keep their fingers crossed. For them Democracy caan only work when they are in charge
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Old 01-19-2013, 06:56 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Yes, both parties had become one and the same, until 2010 and free people woke up and saw what government was doing.
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Really which people are these ? The birthers? The truthers? Or the 2nd amendment ONLY lovers ? How about the secessionists ? You mean these freedom loving knuckle draggers ?


Ya, go ahead and turn a blind eye.

the 2010 Mid-term elections, placed the very people into office that have gone against the Progressive Republicans and Democrats, you worship.

I think you label them Constitutionalist Teabaggers.
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Old 01-19-2013, 07:04 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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BentBow is discrediting the Democrats role in civil rights and instead trying to propagate the misconception that Republicans still care about civil rights. If the Republicans were so for civil rights how do you explain the numerous efforts since then to repeal it and the recent TeaParty craziness? Simple...read my previous post about Dixiecrats, Democrat leadership in 1964 having the balls to stand up to their southern racists, and the Republican southern strategy.

No, just the Progressive Democrats.

The Conservative Democrats were on board and on the same page as the Conservative Republicans were.
LBJ was a very Conservative Democrat. It is the reason he didn't even try to run for President again, as the Democrat party was being taken over by the Progressives. That is the shift you see that made both parties one in the same, with a big mix of Progressive and Conservatives in both parties. Then the Progressives started into the Republican party. Lindsey Graham, Both President Bushes. John McCain. Then come off with the mask and self admitted Progressive, Mitt Romney, is put into the candidacy.
The only Conservative in the race was blackballed and silenced so his message of personal liberty was silenced. Because that is a very dangerous thing to have free thinking people out there, when you are trying to control them.
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Old 01-19-2013, 07:11 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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If Texans were stupid enough to secede Mexico would invade their asses in no time and Texans would come back crying like little girls.


Ft hood alone has more Texas National Guards, than all of the Mexican Army.
Quit coming off as an idiot. Think before you type, please. Your credibility doesn't need another set-back.
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