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Old 01-21-2013, 02:02 PM
 
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If you believe it is a false comparison, you responded to the wrong post.
No, I responded to the right post. Your post is a false comparison.

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You're counting number of accidents, or fatalities there? I think the former? I also assume that many fatalities aren't "accidents".
We're talking about accidents. Hence the relevance of accident statistics.

Wiggle wiggle wiggle.
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Old 01-21-2013, 02:09 PM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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LOL. Check in your freedoms at the entrance.
Sorta. I can't speak for the state laws in NM. However, the rules I outlined do apply, here in NV, perhaps I assumed to much as to this particular incident. Gun shows here, are usually held in casino convention centers. Bearing in mind that Casinos, like banks and Federal buildings, do not allow CCW carry, or open carry. Lmao, so, its interesting to watch all the guns going in and out at shows. But, nodody has ever been injured or negligently discharged at a gun show here to my knowledge.
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Old 01-21-2013, 03:20 PM
 
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Dang! 22k deaths from falls? Holy cow I never would have guessed such a high number.
Slips, trips and falls always has and always will be the number one unintentional accident killer of humans.

Gravity is a sonofabitch.
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Old 01-21-2013, 04:18 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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Any tool of sufficient power is going to be linked with death and injury of and by the careless and luckless. No doubt that when man invented the boat, the incidence of drownings skyrocketed. OTHO so did the provision of nutrition from fishing. Same thing with guns. Accidents occured, but so did the ability of the average Joe to protect himself from violence. Is it really that tough to understand?

Again where is the quote/link where anyone ever claimed that "guns are totally safe?" Everything I've ever read from pro-gun types underscores the inherent danger of guns. What other avocation has four rules of safety as basic text?

Let me guess you won't attack or deflect. You'll just ignore and decline to respond.
At this point I think it's safe to say that I got my answer: ignore and decline to respond. I guess one ignore deserves another. Genius of CD is in providing that ignore button for those who won't engage in open and honest debate....
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Old 01-21-2013, 04:56 PM
 
Location: The Brat Stop
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Any tool of sufficient power is going to be linked with death and injury of and by the careless and luckless. No doubt that when man invented the boat, the incidence of drownings skyrocketed. OTHO so did the provision of nutrition from fishing. Same thing with guns. Accidents occured, but so did the ability of the average Joe to protect himself from violence. Is it really that tough to understand?

Again where is the quote/link where anyone ever claimed that "guns are totally safe?" Everything I've ever read from pro-gun types underscores the inherent danger of guns. What other avocation has four rules of safety as basic text?

Let me guess you won't attack or deflect. You'll just ignore and decline to respond.
Let's go fishing. Guns were not meant for hunting, they were really meant to be used as a tool to kill other people, usually those who want to attempt a government coup. Nowadays, the more guns, the merrier.
In 1878 there were probably about 150 fishing boats. In 2012, there are probably 20 million fishing boats, and probably 3,000 drowning deaths related to fishing mishaps {accidents}

In 1878, there were probably 3,000 guns, today there are there are around 90 guns for every 100 Americans, which might equal more stupidity, more unsafe operation of such, more accidents.
More than 85 people a day are killed with guns in America.

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the probability that one thing is so or will happen rather than another

I apologize for not answering sooner, I was trolling other threads.
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Old 01-21-2013, 08:31 PM
 
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This is more of an issue of personal responsibility than guns. My brother owns a whole cabinet of guns and has never had any problems. Of course, he has taken classes and learned how to properly operate a gun.

I think that if you are going to buy a gun, then you need to take responsibility to actually learn to use it. Otherwise, someone will get hurt. You don't buy a car, motorcycle, small plane, or boat without learning to operate it first. You should do the same when buying a gun.
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Old 01-21-2013, 08:37 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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Let's go fishing. Guns were not meant for hunting, they were really meant to be used as a tool to kill other people, usually those who want to attempt a government coup. Nowadays, the more guns, the merrier.
In 1878 there were probably about 150 fishing boats. In 2012, there are probably 20 million fishing boats, and probably 3,000 drowning deaths related to fishing mishaps {accidents}

In 1878, there were probably 3,000 guns, today there are there are around 90 guns for every 100 Americans, which might equal more stupidity, more unsafe operation of such, more accidents.
More than 85 people a day are killed with guns in America.

Odds:
the probability that one thing is so or will happen rather than another

I apologize for not answering sooner, I was trolling other threads.
I'm sure you were.
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Old 01-21-2013, 08:47 PM
 
Location: Texas
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OK, Just in................

New Commemorative Pistol
Ruger is coming out with a new pistol in honor of the United States Senate
and the House of Representatives. It will be named the “Congressman.”



.................It doesn't work and you can't fire it.
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Old 01-22-2013, 03:31 PM
 
Location: Maryland about 20 miles NW of DC
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Dang! 22k deaths from falls? Holy cow I never would have guessed such a high number.

I don't see why you are surprised! There are a lot of people who try to be do-it-yourself roofers, antenna or dish technicians or gutter cleaners.
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Old 01-22-2013, 04:12 PM
 
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I don't see why you are surprised! There are a lot of people who try to be do-it-yourself roofers, antenna or dish technicians or gutter cleaners.
Then all this should be banned, right....I'm mean people "try" with guns also, but...................
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