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Old 02-27-2013, 12:23 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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We should ban the Internet.

It can kill people.

 
Old 02-27-2013, 01:13 AM
 
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Maybe, if he's as lucky as Oliver North, he'll have his own book published and go on talk/news shows. I mean, Oliver North was a bit of a traitorous scumbag himself, wasn't he? But then again, Oliver North knew the "right" people.
No, he wasn't anywhere in the same league as Manning.

Breaking the law to engage in activity that results in freeing hostages and toppling a communist dictatorship is not quite the same thing as releasing classified secrets to the internet where they can be read by terrorist and enemies to get revenge for not liking the Army's policy on homosexuality.

While both broke the law you can't even remotely compare the two. A starving person who steals bread to feed his children is still a thief. He broke the law. But it's the same thing as a serial killer.
 
Old 02-27-2013, 01:23 AM
 
Location: Eugenius
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I just want to say that Bradley Manning isn't entirely forgotten, I passed a protest in town just this weekend about Bradley Manning. They even had a guy dressed up as a gauntanamo detainee. I would have joined them had I not been on my way to somewhere.

Justice is DEAD in America.
 
Old 02-27-2013, 01:28 AM
 
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I just want to say that Bradley Manning isn't entirely forgotten, I passed a protest in town just this weekend about Bradley Manning. They even had a guy dressed up as a gauntanamo detainee. I would have joined them had I not been on my way to somewhere.

Justice is DEAD in America.
I know. People should be free to reveal top secret diplomatic and intelligence documents without fear of consequences, right? Man, it is just so unjust to expect people working in secret facilities to keep the information secret. If you don't like your employer's policies why shouldn't you be able to protest by releasing thousands of confidential documents over the internet? America is so fascist.
 
Old 02-27-2013, 02:05 AM
 
Location: texas
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The man is a hero to all of us. Remember the "most transparent regime" in history is the one persecuting him. I hope he wins this battle.
I know, Im still waiting for my set of keys to the Pentagon, CIA, and FBI.
 
Old 02-27-2013, 03:31 PM
 
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I hope he goes to Supermax for Life.
 
Old 02-27-2013, 06:23 PM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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Being in the military means you swear an oath to obey the Uniform Code of Military Justice! So it applies in all of its glory!

but even before obeying the UCMJ, you say that you support and defend the Constitution of the United States.
 
Old 02-27-2013, 06:59 PM
 
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but even before obeying the UCMJ, you say that you support and defend the Constitution of the United States.
They are pretty much the same thing, you can't disobey one without disobeying the other.
 
Old 02-27-2013, 07:02 PM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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They are pretty much the same thing, you can't disobey one without disobeying the other.

not exactly.

when we went through classes concerning the UCMJ and the Constitution, we were always told by military attorneys to defer to the Constitution before the UCMJ if something became in conflict with both.
 
Old 03-01-2013, 03:50 AM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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not exactly.

when we went through classes concerning the UCMJ and the Constitution, we were always told by military attorneys to defer to the Constitution before the UCMJ if something became in conflict with both.
The UCMJ does not even pretend to adhere to the US Constitution. Once you sign that contract to serve in the military you become government property. You are automatically guilty until you prove yourself innocent. None of the Bill of Rights apply once you sign that dotted line.
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