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Old 01-31-2013, 04:55 PM
 
Location: The Land of Reason
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Oh, yeah. People always rally around someone they have no intention of voting for ... right?
Especially when there is a concert of freebies given out at the same time
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Old 01-31-2013, 04:57 PM
 
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Yet people like you and the media continue to make Obama out to be not only a hero, but a savior. When clearly, hes not.
WRONG!! I defend only the useless attacks that made on him, but as American of African decent I'm not happy with him either, but he is still better than mitt would have been.
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Old 01-31-2013, 07:04 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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The first two years of Mr. Obama's presidency he owned both houses of Congress (may I remind you?). He could have gotten anything he wanted. That's how we got stuck with ObamaCare.
Oh no, not the 'Democrats controlled Congress' meme again.

The Dems didn't completely control the Senate. Al Franken was seated nearly eight months after winning his Senate seat. Even if the Senate was controlled by Democrats (e.g. 50 seats), the statement ignores two other facts. a) there were Democrats in the Senate that vote as if they were Republicans. b) Republicans liberally used the filibuster to block legislation.

The Dems never had 60 Senate seats post-2008. They had between 56 and 58 seats. For that very brief period they had 58 seats with consistent support from Bernie Sanders and inconsistent support from Joe Lieberman. The Democrats hardly had 60 Dem seats, and hardly 60 reliable Dem votes. Then in a special election the following January, Scott Brown won Teddy Kennedy’s old seat, and was sworn in on February 4th.

Democrats' 60-vote majority in Senate: So close and yet so far - latimes.com


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As for after the mid-terms, what specifically was "blocked" (presumably you mean by Republicans) that would have "help[ed] the American people?"
Let's try the Jobs Bill for one, that would have added two million jobs.

Let's also note that the House blocked the renewal of Defense of Women Act, an Act that none controversially.

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Which Party has blocked the construction of the XL Pipeline? Which Party continually blocks the development of our oil and gas resources?

Affordable and abundant energy are essential to economic growth. If you think Mr. Obama is sincerely interested in economic growth, why does he so often take actions that stifle it? He said himself that, "Under my plan for a cap and trade system, electricity prices would necessarily skyrocket."
There were many good reasons to block the XL pipeline, which was to ship Canadian oil to foreign nations.

Our gas resources have never been stronger.
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Old 01-31-2013, 07:45 PM
 
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Old 02-04-2013, 04:49 PM
 
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Oh no, not the 'Democrats controlled Congress' meme again.

The Dems didn't completely control the Senate. Al Franken was seated nearly eight months after winning his Senate seat. Even if the Senate was controlled by Democrats (e.g. 50 seats), the statement ignores two other facts. a) there were Democrats in the Senate that vote as if they were Republicans. b) Republicans liberally used the filibuster to block legislation.

The Dems never had 60 Senate seats post-2008. They had between 56 and 58 seats. For that very brief period they had 58 seats with consistent support from Bernie Sanders and inconsistent support from Joe Lieberman. The Democrats hardly had 60 Dem seats, and hardly 60 reliable Dem votes. Then in a special election the following January, Scott Brown won Teddy Kennedy’s old seat, and was sworn in on February 4th.

Democrats' 60-vote majority in Senate: So close and yet so far - latimes.com


Let's try the Jobs Bill for one, that would have added two million jobs.

Let's also note that the House blocked the renewal of Defense of Women Act, an Act that none controversially.

There were many good reasons to block the XL pipeline, which was to ship Canadian oil to foreign nations.

Our gas resources have never been stronger.
I have said the same thing repeatly but they keep quoting the dems had a majority lie
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Old 02-04-2013, 04:57 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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There were many good reasons to block the XL pipeline, which was to ship Canadian oil to foreign nations.

Our gas resources have never been stronger.
Actually I think the U.S blocking the XL pipeline is the best thing that could happen to the Canadian Oil industry - it helps us focus on creating more jobs at home. We can export oil directly to China from our own shores. Hopefully the U.S won't need our oil in the future because it won't be available......btw you do know currently that the U.S imports more oil from Canada than any other nation and that the U.S in not energy independent?

If you think the XL pipeline is a threat to your enviro than read this completely

http://io9.com/5960205/the-us-will-b...t-at-what-cost

Good luck
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Old 02-04-2013, 05:02 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Uhhhh...Romney inferred that the production in Ohio would end in order to make those Chinese made Jeeps. That was a blatant lie. Sorry.
So they are building the jeep in China .Sounds like most of the other manufacturing that left here to China... again manufacturing of the jeep goes to China. No lie there. Just spin of the dumb democrats .. how dumb!! Romney telling the exact truth.
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Old 02-04-2013, 05:04 PM
 
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Actually I think the U.S blocking the XL pipeline is the best thing that could happen to the Canadian Oil industry - it helps us focus on creating more jobs at home. We can export oil directly to China from our own shores. Hopefully the U.S won't need our oil in the future because it won't be available......btw you do know currently that the U.S imports more oil from Canada than any other nation and that the U.S in not energy independent?

Sadly, there are still those who believe that this is in the best interest of the people in this country
Hell they can't even tell the truth about how many jobs that it will provide on a permanent basis. Not to mention that they omitt the part that the oil is going THROUGH the country to other countries.
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Old 02-04-2013, 05:04 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Actually I think the U.S blocking the XL pipeline is the best thing that could happen to the Canadian Oil industry - it helps us focus on creating more jobs at home. We can export oil directly to China from our own shores. Hopefully the U.S won't need our oil in the future because it won't be available......btw you do know currently that the U.S imports more oil from Canada than any other nation and that the U.S in not energy independent?

If you think the XL pipeline is a threat to your enviro than read this completely

The U.S. will become energy independent by 2035 — but at what cost?

Good luck
Obama cut oil production. The oil that is being produced is mostly on private land. Bush had given twice as many permits as Obama for oil production .
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Old 02-04-2013, 05:06 PM
 
Location: Out in the Badlands
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Yeah, we sure would be better off if we had mental giants lke Mit Romney and Paul Ryan in the White House.

They clearly hold the answers to all our nation's woes.
Better than the dodo birds running things now, Einstein.
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