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Old 02-04-2013, 05:11 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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You do know that there are thousands of miles of pipeline in the U.S transporting Canadian oil to refineries in the U.S already don't you. You do know this oil goes to the U.S and export markets and that it is fungible?

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Sadly, there are still those who believe that this is in the best interest of the people in this country
Hell they can't even tell the truth about how many jobs that it will provide on a permanent basis. Not to mention that they omitt the part that the oil is going THROUGH the country to other countries.
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Old 02-04-2013, 05:15 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Better than the dodo birds running things now, Einstein.
Not to mention that Obama is a communist socialist who has so much baggage from his outlook of the world. .

Obama resents America for slavery, for being successful in the global market compared to the other countries of other races. Obama dislikes the Europeans and their ancestors who came over here, Obama resents the rich white people in the world. Obama has so much baggage he will destroy this country putting us in so much debt that we will never regain prosperity .as Obama is going after the rich to pay the bills of the hand outs to illegals and the lazy. Obama is for big unstoppable government, bigger the better and that means collectivism-communism. The transformation is taking place slowly in the minds of many democrats through the brainwashing in the media.. they are being duped like never before.
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Old 02-04-2013, 06:42 PM
 
Location: The Land of Reason
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Not to mention that Obama is a communist socialist who has so much baggage from his outlook of the world. .

Obama resents America for slavery, for being successful in the global market compared to the other countries of other races. Obama dislikes the Europeans and their ancestors who came over here, Obama resents the rich white people in the world. Obama has so much baggage he will destroy this country putting us in so much debt that we will never regain prosperity .as Obama is going after the rich to pay the bills of the hand outs to illegals and the lazy. Obama is for big unstoppable government, bigger the better and that means collectivism-communism. The transformation is taking place slowly in the minds of many democrats through the brainwashing in the media.. they are being duped like never before.

<Yawn> Obama is the opposite of everything that rush told you to believe
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Old 02-04-2013, 06:43 PM
 
Location: The Land of Reason
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You do know that there are thousands of miles of pipeline in the U.S transporting Canadian oil to refineries in the U.S already don't you. You do know this oil goes to the U.S and export markets and that it is fungible?

So if that is the case why have a pipeline that goes through the heartland of America to benefit Canada and China?
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Old 02-04-2013, 06:52 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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If 21 percent of your oil imports comes from Canada (more than any other singular country) how do you think it is getting from Canada to the U.S - by container ships? No it is coming via underground piplines (of which there are thousands of miles of it already underneath your heartland) and this doesn't even include the XL.. That 21 percent isn't going to China. It is refined in the U.S and goes into your vehicles that you use to go to work, heats your homes and fuels the planes you use to fly to see mom and dad in NYC or L.A etc etc......The U.S isn't importing this oil because they are our friend it is because they need it, there is a demand for it and we have the supply. Be sure you don't need it! It makes geographic, political and economic sense for the countries to engage in this relationship but one way or the other Canadian oil will be exported either to the U.S or to China/Asia. The choice rests with the U.S (see articles below) You could increase imports from Venezuela and Mexico if you fancy?

HowStuffWorks "Where does America's gas come from?"

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2012/1...8MQ7FF20121126

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So if that is the case why have a pipeline that goes through the heartland of America to benefit Canada and China?

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Old 02-04-2013, 08:22 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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You do know that there are thousands of miles of pipeline in the U.S transporting Canadian oil to refineries in the U.S already don't you. You do know this oil goes to the U.S and export markets and that it is fungible?

and are those foreign companies that acquired rights though emminent domain.
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Old 02-04-2013, 09:17 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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Was it permitted by your government based on the best interests of the nation as a whole? If it wasn't a 'foreign' country though lets face it Canada is the least foreign country to the U.S than any other, it would have been your own goverment using eminent domain as a proxy. Think how society would have been like in our countries if not for oil........look at the damage thirst for oil has done but weigh it with the benefits. Just don't look at this with tunnel vision. As I said before, this Canadian oil if not going to your country would go to China and you can rely on Venezuela or M.E Kingdoms not sharing similar cultural values with the U.S. They can ship their oil by container ship through the gulf of mexico to meet your needs. There is no perfect solution in the near future.

As for foreign companies in Canada we have plenty of them up here - Walmart, Target, Home Depot, McDonalds, Wendy's blah blah blah etc etc we aren't as protectionist up here... Trade is a two way street that strengthens both nations...as our saying goes, what's good for the goose is good for the gander.

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and are those foreign companies that acquired rights though emminent domain.

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Old 02-05-2013, 01:02 AM
 
Location: The Cascade Foothills
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The taxpayers (us) didn't bail out those companies, we bailed out GM. They pay us back by building their jeeps in China.
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Old 02-05-2013, 01:18 AM
 
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Not to mention that Obama is a communist socialist who has so much baggage from his outlook of the world. .

Obama resents America for slavery, for being successful in the global market compared to the other countries of other races. Obama dislikes the Europeans and their ancestors who came over here, Obama resents the rich white people in the world. Obama has so much baggage he will destroy this country putting us in so much debt that we will never regain prosperity .as Obama is going after the rich to pay the bills of the hand outs to illegals and the lazy. Obama is for big unstoppable government, bigger the better and that means collectivism-communism. The transformation is taking place slowly in the minds of many democrats through the brainwashing in the media.. they are being duped like never before.
How in the hell does one go through life like this^^^?
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Old 02-05-2013, 01:21 AM
 
Location: The Cascade Foothills
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How in the hell does one go through life like this^^^?
lol

"Ignorance is bliss?"
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