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Old 01-21-2013, 02:19 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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Liberals are now claiming that the same amount of Jeeps will be made in the U.S. and the Jeeps made in China will be for the chinese market. Lets wait to see how many Jeeps are loaded on a ship, go across the Pacific ocean, off loaded at the Port of Los Angeles, open the hood and see a 'made in china' tag.
Will Romney haters then admit they were wrong? I doubt it.
If it was profitable to manufacture cars overseas, and import them why are there so many foreign car makers that have multiple plants here?
If there were profit to be made by importing cars, then none of them would be here opening new plants.

The Jeep plant in China will be producing 100,000-200,000 cars a year. According to the site I linked earlier they currently sell about 20,000 a year in China. By producing the car in the market country the cost of that car will go down in that country. Tariffs, fees, and shipping costs will be eliminated, so the price will go down making the car more affordable to more consumers. The current price for a Jeep in China is 575,900 yuan, or $91,064 for a Jeep that costs $26,995 in the US. The increase in price is due to tariffs, fees, and shipping.
Why don't you want an American company to be competitive in one of the fastest growing car markets?

Jeeps Sell for $189,750 as China Demand Offsets Tariffs- Bloomberg

Also how many fords are imported from China? Ford has manufacturing a plant there. If it were financially viable to manufacture in China, and then import the cars to the US, why aren't more fords imported?

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General Motors makes a boatload of money in China, where it has a dominant presence. Last year, GM netted $1.5 billion in profit from its joint venture operations with SAIC, China’s largest carmaker. Ford Motor would love to emulate that success, so it is investing billions to expand its China operations, including the introduction of 15 new vehicles by 2015. In August, Ford Chief Executive Alan Mulally traveled to China to mark the groundbreaking of a new $600 million factory, its third in Chongqing, which is Ford’s largest global manufacturing location outside the Detroit area.
Memo To Mitt Romney: Building Jeeps In China Is Good For America - Forbes
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Old 01-21-2013, 02:28 PM
 
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Romney is an idiot.
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Old 01-21-2013, 02:32 PM
 
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Let's get the facts straight.

Mitt ran ads saying that auto jobs are going to China.
The auto leaders came out and called out Mitt's lie.
Mitt insist it's true and double down on the lie.
Their campaign kept those ads going.

He and his campaign lied.
The proliferation of what Romney knew to be a blatant lie from its inception, was astonishing. It ran a close second to the "You didn't build that" distortion of the facts that the GOP used incessantly at their RNC to bash Obama for the benefit of their dumbed down, gullible constuencies.
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Old 01-21-2013, 03:05 PM
 
Location: a nation with hope
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Seems some people missed this ... it's worth repeating:

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Uhhhh even politfact that reported it as a lie has now backtracked that it was really true. Sorry.

PolitiFact Lie of the Year is true


PolitiFact's anointed 'Lie of the Year' was actually true, reports say

13 hrs ago
PolitiFact loudly proclaimed its "Lie of the Year" to be Mitt Romney’s statement that Jeep would be moving production from the U.S. to China. Romney made the remark during a campaign stop in Ohio and criticized Obama for the move. In response, PolitiFact called Romney a liar and lambasted The Drudge Report for picking up the story when Jeep's parent company denied it. However, Reuters is reporting 100,000 Jeeps will be made in China during 2014. PolitiFact, instead of immediately apologizing, instead conceded the "Lie of the Year" was based in an actual "grain of truth" — then backtracked by saying Jeep building cars in China is a good thing because it’s for a Chinese market, so it basically doesn’t count for the spin they put on Romney's comments. [Source]
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Old 01-21-2013, 03:07 PM
 
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Unfortunately for Romney's sponsors, Romney was not right about the election
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Old 01-21-2013, 03:08 PM
 
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Unfortunately for Romney's sponsors, Romney was not right about the election
He misjudged the intelligence of the voters.
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Old 01-21-2013, 03:20 PM
 
Location: under a rock
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Seems some people missed this ... it's worth repeating:
You missed a few economic classes, and it would be futile to try to get you to understand. You're mind is made up that President Obama is bad.....it says so under your username. Have a wonderful day
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Old 01-21-2013, 03:24 PM
 
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Seems some people missed this ... it's worth repeating:
The Weekly Standard says. That esteemed bastion of ethical reporting.
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Old 01-21-2013, 03:28 PM
 
Location: a nation with hope
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Well, Obama is certainly no "mental giant." I think it is plainly obvious that of the two, Romney vs. Obama, Romney is a genius in comparison to Obama. Let's be real ... Obama has no history of success at anything. He was largely a nobody when he ran for office, and had zero experience at anything that would qualify him.

No wonder he has created such a mess of our economy.
Refreshing, rational, true post.

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And if Romney is such a great soothsayer and prognosticater, why didn't he predict that he was gonna lose so badly, thereby not even wasting his time (and your hope) by running in the first place? I mean, since he's so great at predicting the future and all. He can predict what Chrysler is gonna do, but can't predict his own fortunes?
He greatly overestimated the intelligence of the voters and thought that they actually understood the issues -- or even cared about them.
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Old 01-21-2013, 03:31 PM
 
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He misjudged the intelligence of the voters.
Voters were smart enough not to vote for someone who looks down on half of America
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