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Old 01-20-2013, 04:47 PM
 
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Is Mitt Romney the new*Nostradamus? - BizPac Review


The last two weeks should go down as a period of vindication for former GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney and earn him the nickname, “soothsayer of the Western World” — a modern-age Nostradamus.
On Jan. 14, Chrysler’s CEO acknowledged that Jeeps would be built in China, confirming a statement that unfairly earned Romney the moniker “liar of the year.”
Score one.
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Old 01-20-2013, 05:57 PM
 
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Uhhhh...Romney inferred that the production in Ohio would end in order to make those Chinese made Jeeps. That was a blatant lie. Sorry.
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Old 01-20-2013, 06:05 PM
 
Location: Deep Dirty South
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Yeah, we sure would be better off if we had mental giants lke Mit Romney and Paul Ryan in the White House.

They clearly hold the answers to all our nation's woes.
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Old 01-20-2013, 06:18 PM
 
Location: The Island of Misfit Toys
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Is Mitt Romney the new*Nostradamus? - BizPac Review


The last two weeks should go down as a period of vindication for former GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney and earn him the nickname, “soothsayer of the Western World” — a modern-age Nostradamus.
On Jan. 14, Chrysler’s CEO acknowledged that Jeeps would be built in China, confirming a statement that unfairly earned Romney the moniker “liar of the year.”
Score one.
Whoever wrote that article seems to be not entirely informed on the matter. When Mitt Romney said that about Jeep, he already knew they were going to build Jeeps in China. They are not moving U.S. production of Jeeps to China. They are just creating additional manufacturing plants in China. Big difference.
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Old 01-20-2013, 06:23 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Let's get the facts straight.

Mitt ran ads saying that auto jobs are going to China.
The auto leaders came out and called out Mitt's lie.
Mitt insist it's true and double down on the lie.
Their campaign kept those ads going.

He and his campaign lied.
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Old 01-20-2013, 06:25 PM
 
Location: The Land of Reason
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No matter how hard that they try, you can't make a hero out of a azz!
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Old 01-20-2013, 06:39 PM
 
Location: a nation with hope
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Well, well, well...look at who all came out of the woodwork...y'all are like flies on honey.

Split hairs, why don't you, 'cause that's the only way you can spin it to suit your way of thinking.

Jobs did go to China. If Jeep wasn't being manufactured in China, there'd be people working on them right here.
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Old 01-20-2013, 06:43 PM
 
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Well, well, well...look at who all came out of the woodwork...y'all are like flies on honey.

Split hairs, why don't you, 'cause that's the only way you can spin it to suit your way of thinking.

Jobs did go to China. If Jeep wasn't being manufactured in China, there'd be people working on them right here.
Splitting hairs? It's better than the right's attempt to split an atom, by composing stuff like this inane thread.
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Old 01-20-2013, 06:52 PM
 
Location: a nation with hope
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Splitting hairs? It's better than the right's attempt to split an atom, by composing stuff like this inane thread.
...and here comes the first sign of last defense - marginalizing and probably, next, name calling.

Did anyone ever tell you that it's OK to disagree without calling someone else's post "inane"?

Or, aren't you interested in discussing the topic?

Try this for starters:

Whoops: PolitiFact's 'Lie of the Year' Turns Out to Be True
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/...ue_696223.html

"Public expressed collective outrage"? That's essentially wishcasting on the part of PolitiFact, nor are they accurately representing what Mitt Romney said in the ad. In fact, here's PolitiFact's original "fact check" on the matter:

[Mitt Romney] Says Barack Obama "sold Chrysler to Italians who are going to build Jeeps in China" at the cost of American jobs.


Reuters) - Fiat (FIA.MI) and its U.S. unit Chrysler expect to roll out at least 100,000 Jeeps in China when production starts in 2014 as they seek to catch up with rivals in the world's biggest car market.
Output could double, the Italian carmaker's Chief Executive Sergio Marchionne, without giving a precise timeframe.
Fiat sees at least 100,000 Jeeps made in China in 2014 | Reuters

Like I said, those are Jeeps that could have been produced here.

And Romney was right.

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Old 01-20-2013, 07:05 PM
 
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Uhhhh...Romney inferred that the production in Ohio would end in order to make those Chinese made Jeeps. That was a blatant lie. Sorry.
Uhhhh even politfact that reported it as a lie has now backtracked that it was really true. Sorry.

PolitiFact Lie of the Year is true




PolitiFact's anointed 'Lie of the Year' was actually true, reports say

13 hrs ago
PolitiFact loudly proclaimed its "Lie of the Year" to be Mitt Romney’s statement that Jeep would be moving production from the U.S. to China. Romney made the remark during a campaign stop in Ohio and criticized Obama for the move. In response, PolitiFact called Romney a liar and lambasted The Drudge Report for picking up the story when Jeep's parent company denied it. However, Reuters is reporting 100,000 Jeeps will be made in China during 2014. PolitiFact, instead of immediately apologizing, instead conceded the "Lie of the Year" was based in an actual "grain of truth" — then backtracked by saying Jeep building cars in China is a good thing because it’s for a Chinese market, so it basically doesn’t count for the spin they put on Romney's comments. [Source]
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