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Old 01-21-2013, 06:39 PM
 
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Anybody see that viddeo of that father laughing before giving a interview to the MSM? So obvious it was set up. Then that one of the guy making up the story bout the kids comming to his driveway.
The guy "Gene Rosen" claims 6 children from Mrs. Soto's classroom were on his front lawn and he took them inside, gave them toys and food, and kept them until the parents came to pick them up.

The official story from police claims all the children in Mrs. Soto's class were shot and killed however they also claim 6 children did try to escape but Adam Lanza shot and killed them in the hallway.

Gene Rosen lives next to the Sandy Hook firehouse and he would have seen emergency vehicles with sirens blaring in front of his home and people everywhere let alone the helicopters hovering above but yet he never mentions that. I find it strange that authorities would allow evacuated kids to remain at Gene Rosens house when the rest of the 600 kids were next door with emergency workers. Various media has interview Gene Rosen but not one question why these kids were at his house and allowed to stay.

 
Old 01-21-2013, 06:40 PM
 
Location: The Cascade Foothills
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Anybody see that viddeo of that father laughing before giving a interview to the MSM? So obvious it was set up. Then that one of the guy making up the story bout the kids comming to his driveway.
"NRAtuffGuy?" Seriously?

Gee, I wonder which recently banned member this could be? lol
 
Old 01-21-2013, 06:41 PM
 
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I have never seen that article but authorities claim the bodies were beyond recognition and this article even claims Noah was hit 11 times with a AR-15 which would tear the body apart.
Indeed it did. His left hand and lower half of his face were gone.
 
Old 01-21-2013, 06:43 PM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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Really? You think it's outlandish or paranoid to ask legitimate, probing questions about current events?

All I can say is that I certainly hope you're not trying to build a career in law enforcement or journalism.

What interests me is that people who question the version that is presented to us by the media and/or the government are so often accused of being kooks, or paranoid. For the record, please note that I did not make ANY accusations.

Let me use a little example of why this rubs me the wrong way.

I am a faithful, honest wife. I share an open, drama-free relationship with my open, honest husband. If I came home from the grocery store one evening and he said, "Wow, you were gone a long time - what happened?" I would not be caught off guard or defensive at all. I'd say, "Oh my gosh, the lines were terrible - is there an ice storm forecast or what?" and that would be it.

However, if I was having an affair, and I had an underlying sense of guilt and paranoia, I'd most likely have a different response - more like, "What - you don't trust me? SHEEZE!"

But - a question of concern, or one of interest? What's the problem? It wouldn't occur to me to get defensive - because I have nothing to hide.
Do you have any photos that prove you are not cheating on your husband? Would you have to show him a picture of the long lines at the grocery store?

Your analogy is as ridiculous as the premise of this thread.
 
Old 01-21-2013, 06:46 PM
 
Location: Redondo Beach, CA
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None of the family's were allowed to see their child. The caskets were sealed.
That's a lie.
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I have never seen that article but authorities claim the bodies were beyond recognition and this article even claims Noah was hit 11 times with a AR-15 which would tear the body apart.
Noah Pozner's body was torn apart. His entire lower jaw was ripped off his face. His entire left hand was obliterated. Gone.

"[Noah's mother] Veronique described what she saw: 'We all saw how beautiful he was. He had thick, shiny hair, beautiful long eyelashes that rested on his cheeks. He looked like he was sleeping. But the reality of it was under the cloth he had covering his mouth there was no mouth left. His jaw was blown away. I just want people to know the ugliness of it so we don’t talk about it abstractly, like these little angels just went to heaven. No. They were butchered. They were brutalized. And that is what haunts me at night.'"

Cite.

So there's a picture for ya.
 
Old 01-21-2013, 06:48 PM
 
Location: Stasis
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The guy "Gene Rosen" claims 6 children from Mrs. Soto's classroom were on his front lawn and he took them inside, gave them toys and food, and kept them until the parents came to pick them up.

The official story from police claims all the children in Mrs. Soto's class were shot and killed however they also claim 6 children did try to escape but Adam Lanza shot and killed them in the hallway.

Gene Rosen lives next to the Sandy Hook firehouse and he would have seen emergency vehicles with sirens blaring in front of his home and people everywhere let alone the helicopters hovering above but yet he never mentions that. I find it strange that authorities would allow evacuated kids to remain at Gene Rosens house when the rest of the 600 kids were next door with emergency workers. Various media has interview Gene Rosen but not one question why these kids were at his house and allowed to stay.
Do you just make this up? Check a map. I can't see a fire station anywhere near Sandy Hook Elementary.

Why do you say he "claims" he helped six children? You think he's a part of some sort of big charade?
 
Old 01-21-2013, 06:52 PM
 
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That's a lie. Noah Pozner's body was torn apart. His entire lower jaw was ripped off his face. His entire left hand was obliterated. Gone.

"[Noah's mother] Veronique described what she saw: 'We all saw how beautiful he was. He had thick, shiny hair, beautiful long eyelashes that rested on his cheeks. He looked like he was sleeping. But the reality of it was under the cloth he had covering his mouth there was no mouth left. His jaw was blown away. I just want people to know the ugliness of it so we don’t talk about it abstractly, like these little angels just went to heaven. No. They were butchered. They were brutalized. And that is what haunts me at night.'"

Cite.

So there's a picture for ya.
Your claiming the family was able to view the disfigured body of their son? This is a bogus claim.
 
Old 01-21-2013, 06:52 PM
 
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That would explain things... IF what anyone was asking for were bloody pictures of the victims. Nobody has requested bloody photos, nobody has requested autopsy photos. I specifically mentioned photos or video of the evacuation process, and you still are posting nonsense about bloody photos.

The simple truth of this whole situation is that the media stories are not adding up to what little evidence and documentation is out there. There are quite a few of us who have noticed this, and we want to know why. It isn't morbid curiosity, it isn't to pursue some sort of secret underground agenda against the families, the police, or anyone else. It is simply because the news media is failing in their stated goal to deliver accurate information to the public. Why is this so hard to understand?
So the "media" is one giant monolith and they are all conspiring to deceive? I never understand when people blame "the media" as if it were ONE functioning whole. The "media" is owned by various companies who actually compete with each other. Maybe, just maybe, the public doesn't really need to be buried in photos and information about this incident. If you don't think there's a government conspiracy regarding this event, why do you care? As you said an investigative report has not be released yet, so when it is released possibly all your questions will be answered. I personally do NOT need to see more photos.

And it's also entirely possible that the incident took place so fast, the police got there so quickly, that the "media" couldn't get close enough to take a lot of pictures.
 
Old 01-21-2013, 06:52 PM
 
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Do you have any photos that prove you are not cheating on your husband? Would you have to show him a picture of the long lines at the grocery store?

Your analogy is as ridiculous as the premise of this thread.
I think accepting what you read without question is ridiculous.
 
Old 01-21-2013, 06:53 PM
 
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Your claiming the family was able to view the disfigured body of their son? This is a bogus claim.
My quote and link states the very sentiment. The claim is a fact.
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