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Old 01-24-2013, 08:50 PM
 
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This is the crux of the matter, isn't it? The mentally disturbed who are intent on murder and mayhem in other countries are often stymied when attempting to carry out their intentions because the weaponry for mass murder is just not available to them. In the US, they have access to arsenals.
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Comrade Mao is credited with murdering somewhere between 30 and 60 M I L L I O N unarmed and defenseless Chinese people. No murderous dictator in all of recorded history can claim that number of kills ... not even Stalin or Hitler, or any other.

Case closed.

 
Old 01-24-2013, 08:52 PM
 
Location: Coos Bay, Oregon
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Comrade Mao is credited with murdering somewhere between 30 and 60 M I L L I O N unarmed and defenseless Chinese people. No murderous dictator in all of recorded history can claim that number of kills ... not even Stalin or Hitler, or any other.

Case closed.
When you can't win an argument, change the subject.
 
Old 01-24-2013, 08:52 PM
 
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Maybe you missed this?
Didn't miss it at all. The post applies not at all to the topic of this thread.
 
Old 01-24-2013, 08:59 PM
 
Location: The Cascade Foothills
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Comrade Mao is credited with murdering somewhere between 30 and 60 M I L L I O N unarmed and defenseless Chinese people. No murderous dictator in all of recorded history can claim that number of kills ... not even Stalin or Hitler, or any other.

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WTF??????

WTF does Chairman Mao have to do with the tragedy in Newton?
 
Old 01-24-2013, 09:00 PM
 
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WTF??????

WTF does Chairman Mao have to do with the tragedy in Newton?
People with guns shooting people without guns.
 
Old 01-24-2013, 09:07 PM
 
Location: La lune et les étoiles
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Let's see if you want to engage in actual analysis and discussion, or just continue with inane rhetoric, OKAY?

Early on in the aftermath of the shooting, reporters were given information that the alleged shooter was Ryan Lanza .. based on identification documents found on his body, and that his mother, Nancy Lanza, a school teacher was also found dead inside the school. And a reporter asked an exiting school employee/teacher if she knew Nancy Lanza, which she replied she knew her very well and that she was a wonderful teacher. Later we are told that the alleged shooter was actually Adam Lanza, the younger brother. Sometime after that, a raid on the Lanza home found Nancy Lanza dead there, and not at the school. Then the story shifted from her being a teacher at the school to having no affiliation with the school at all, and no records of her ever being employed at the school.

There are several problems here that have no logical explanation in terms of being simple mistakes. It's certainly explainable that they could have misidentified Adam Lanza if he were carrying his older brother's student ID .... but how did they identify his mother so quickly, and how did they ID her dead body at the school, and why did this alleged school employee claim that she knew her very well, and that she was a wonderful teacher, when, according to those later reports, Nancy Lanza had no connection to the school whatsoever? So the main issues are:

1) How could this school employee claim to know Nancy Lanza very well, if Lanza had no connection to the school at all? This isn't a mistake ... it's a fabricated lie.

2) How could authorities identify Nancy Lanza as dead inside the school, when she never physically there?

3) Since Nancy Lanza's body wasn't discovered inside her home until well after those initial reports claiming she was dead inside the school ... how could authorities have known she was even dead at all, until her body was actually found dead?


Now, I'm open to hear any speculations as to how these mistakes could have been made honestly. Because, as I analyze it ... it is impossible to explain as simple mistakes. What this indicates is that the script for this staged event called for the person Nancy Lanza to be a school teacher shot at the school, and the employee who claimed to know her very well was following that script. For whatever reason, the script had to be changed, not everybody got the new script, and that change accounts for the new story not fitting any aspects of the initial reports.

Of course, some will think this is crazy ... staged events and scripts .... but apparently, these same people don't think it's crazy that people will make assertions that are totally false and impossible (like claiming to know a fellow teacher very well, when that person was never a teacher there), and identifying dead bodies inside a school that were never physically there. To me, that's the crazy part ... but I'm open to more rational speculations, if anyone has one.

1) How could this school employee claim to know Nancy Lanza very well, if Lanza had no connection to the school at all? This isn't a mistake ... it's a fabricated lie. There are people who fill other roles in a school besides those solely with the title "teacher" within a school. There are teacher's assistants, schoolyard monitors, reading specialists, paraprofessionals, SPED teachers, some schools contract SLPs or audiologists, etc


2) How could authorities identify Nancy Lanza as dead inside the school, when she never physically there?
Perhaps they erroneously made the assumptions since she was supposed to be there, was unaccounted for amongst the living school personnel and was later for dead in her home.

3) Since Nancy Lanza's body wasn't discovered inside her home until well after those initial reports claiming she was dead inside the school ... how could authorities have known she was even dead at all, until her body was actually found dead?
Again, the police made that assumption initially because she was supposed to have been at the school during that time and was not present among the surviving personnel so the obvious assumption was that she was dead within the school.

Had this been an LAPD or NYPD investigation I would not be as lenient simply because those are law enforcement agencies which have much more experience and sophistication dealing with crime scene investigations...but this town is practically like Mayberry. These types of errors in initial reporting would must likely have been quashed because those large metropolitan LEAs would have not released information until later in the investigation and would have used a well-seasoned spokesperson to address the media with consistency while not leaking information that would jeopardize their investigation.

What has happened is that these busybody Mrs Kravitz laptop super sleuths are taking the mottled, mishmash of initial information and using it as gospel and corrections of the initial information as deception or sinister.
 
Old 01-24-2013, 09:19 PM
 
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People with guns shooting people without guns.
The left didn't learn anything about this....... They do know a misspelled word though.........
 
Old 01-24-2013, 09:27 PM
 
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Those numbers have been steadily declining without government interference. If we could get the government away from the idiotic war on drugs, they would go down a lot further and a lot faster.
Not by enough though.

 
Old 01-24-2013, 10:10 PM
 
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The thing is that neither the government nor media need to fabricate or cover up anything to prove that there is an epidemic of deadly gun violence in the U.S. There are on average over 1000 homicides, 4000 injuries, and 1500 suicides a month from firearms in the U.S. The real facts are damning enough. Gun control advocates don't need to doctor the facts on Sandy Hook to make the point that something needs to be done.
When guns are removed folks go to other means to kill others or themselves. It's not the gun. Why is that so hard to grasp?
 
Old 01-24-2013, 10:15 PM
 
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WTF??????

WTF does Chairman Mao have to do with the tragedy in Newton?
The post he responded to was trying to make a point that if you take away guns there would be no murders. Pay attention.
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