Explicit Sex-Ed Pamphlets Distributed To Pre-Teens

[tinman01]

Originally Posted by ontheroad

We all make mistakes, and furthermore I often find the news media make mistakes.

Inasmuch as I have not personally been involved, I am not in any position to condemn the accused or for that matter defend them.

We are making many assumptions based on a single published article!

Big difference in if the media makes a mistake. They make so many its become expected.
Quite another when its the public school system that we must trust with the well being of our children. Another factor is these are in fact civil servants. We have a right to expect the best and hold them accountable for such a breach in that trust.
In short send a message to all civil servants and fire them. The private sector would. Oh wait maybe they have tenure??? Then we cant fire them no matter how poor their performance. silly me.

[ontheroad]

However, I am not accepting that these professionals made a mistake. We see an article and rush to censure those accused. I am not implying or stating that people shouldn't be held accountable, but rather I am not convinced this is a meritorious report.

Furthermore, civil servants are as accountable as those in the public sector. Few exceptions are made, and educators are often dismissed. However, there is a process. Public outrage is not part of that process, but rather an investigation, followed by recommendations.

Originally Posted by tinman01

Big difference in if the media makes a mistake. They make so many its become expected.
Quite another when its the public school system that we must trust with the well being of our children. Another factor is these are in fact civil servants. We have a right to expect the best and hold them accountable for such a breach in that trust.
In short send a message to all civil servants and fire them. The private sector would. Oh wait maybe they have tenure??? Then we cant fire them no matter how poor their performance. silly me.

[tinman01]

Originally Posted by ontheroad

However, I am not accepting that these professionals made a mistake. We see an article and rush to censure those accused. I am not implying or stating that people shouldn't be held accountable, but rather I am not convinced this is a meritorious report.

Furthermore, civil servants are as accountable as those in the public sector. Few exceptions are made, and educators are often dismissed. However, there is a process. Public outrage is not part of that process, but rather an investigation, followed by recommendations.

Perhaps public outrage should be a part of it. After all we are the employer.
The mistake happened and those involved actually admitted to it.

[djacques]

I'm not outraged. Anyone who's more outraged by this than by the criminal war in Iraq needs a serious reconsideration of their priorities.

[GregW]

I wish this sort of information was available when I was a pre teen. It would have made the experimentation and sex play even more fun. as well as a lot safer.

Do you people really think that kids don’t play sex with each other? Really?

[bily4]

On a related note - this article describes how the Catholic Church's ban on condoms is causing AIDS to spread throughout Latin America.


Some 1.7 million people across Latin America are infected with the HIV virus or full-blown AIDS, and the epidemic is spreading swiftly with up to 410,000 new cases in 2006, up from as many as 320,000 new cases in 2004, according the UN AIDS program, UNAIDS.

"In Latin America the use of condoms has been demonized, but if they were used in every relation I guarantee the epidemic would be resolved in the region," said Alberto Stella, the UNAIDS Coordinator for Honduras, Nicaragua and Costa Rica.

The Catholic Church, which holds sway in Latin America despite the rise in evangelical churches, opposes all forms of contraception and instead promotes abstinence as a way to avoid spreading AIDS.

"The fact young people start to be sexually active between 15 and 19 without sex education contributes to the spreading of the virus, as well as the fact that the evidence shows abstinence is not working," Stella told Reuters.

Catholic condom ban helping AIDS spread in Latam: U.N. - Yahoo! News (broken link)

[djacques]

Originally Posted by GregW

I wish this sort of information was available when I was a pre teen. It would have made the experimentation and sex play even more fun. as well as a lot safer.

Do you people really think that kids don’t play sex with each other? Really?

True that. See for example Wisconsin's War on Kids

[ZDnexus]

I never received any sex education. Talking about sex was taboo. I did not know anything about girls except they had longer hair. I was caught masturbating and I was punished for doing. My sex education was from my classmates and we would whisper into our ears telling strange things which only later I realised some were completely made up. I was horrified to find out that I was born because my parents had sex - I was absolutely disgusted - I could never think it was possible. When I asked my parents about sex they were to embarrassed to talk about it and always changed the subjec.
When I had erection I was not sure what to make of it, I did not what to make of it.
Way back I was a kid the only access to porn were the porn magazines wrapped up in brown paper bags. A woman's body disturbed me, it took some time to adjust to what I was looking at. Everything was muddled up. All things I heard my class fellows and friends did not add up, because they got the facts wrong as I did. I was not sure about my sexual orientation. Looking at porn magazines and looking at men - I was did not know what I was supposed to feel. Pleasure, disgust, horror or joy. Only till I got older did I start figuring things by myself. It was long and strange experience. Sex education is better than to life of utter confusion. Everyone has sexual desire - which was something I never knew, the difference in gender I did not know. I never how a baby is born - rather what makes it happen.
I don't know if I am a better person because I did not know a thing about sex when I was a kid. But when think back, sometimes I have a bitter sense of regret that I was so ignorant and so absolutely misguided. The little bit of sex education I got was from porn magazines - still the first time you do it, it is like riding bicycle and falling off.

[ZDnexus]

Originally Posted by citigirl

Parental rights and parental and parental notification are being eroded and there is clear intent to expose children to graphic adult sex before the age of reason, before they can really understand the risks and responsibilities of sex.

I was a manager in a restaurant and one day a couple of strippers came in. Out of curiosity I ask them about their profession. They said they had three goals. “Get them talking about sex. Get them thinking about sex. Get them thinking about having sex with you.”

I think that is the goal being used towards children. It will be interesting to see who or what group distributed these pamphlets.

It depends what kind of parents. There are those who do are fairly open minded about this, some extremely reserved and tight lipped because sex is dirty, evil and sinful. A Hollywood movie cliche was couple having sex always got shot or stabbed. Or there would be a fire. It satisfied the prudes in the audience. Things were so silly that even belly buttons were considered obscene, so they had to be hidden. The world has changed the prudes of the world leave the cinema hall when things start getting too sleazy for taste and the lovers never get killed. I suppose living in a make belief world in which sex does not exist may sound like heaven, the truth is it would be pure hell.

[jtur88]

Does anybody object to "explicit" material being used in school to teach drivers-ed or woodworking shop? An explicit picture of a real board and real sandpaper? No pictures of steering wheels allowed in driver's-ed? "Explicit" is how you get the point across.