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Old 01-23-2013, 10:16 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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But you surely ARE making an exception if you're not holding people of different ages to the same standard, right?
You are, but I am asking, why aren't men and women of the SAME age held to the SAME standard?
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Old 01-23-2013, 10:18 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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No, but many have debated that we should hold everyone to the same standard. How are women going to fireman carry their injured male counterparts from the front lines if they can't even do pushups?
Well, those two activities use different muscles.

And if we should hold everyone to the same standard then shouldn't we hold everyone to the same standard, regardless of age?
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Old 01-23-2013, 10:19 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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You are, but I am asking, why aren't men and women of the SAME age held to the SAME standard?
For the same reason that we don't hold everyone to the same standard regardless of age?



Now, why is it so terrible to hold women to a different standard than a man, but it's no problem at all to hold one man to a different standard than another man?
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Old 01-23-2013, 10:19 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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Well, those two activities use different muscles.

And if we should hold everyone to the same standard then shouldn't we hold everyone to the same standard, regardless of age?
Yes we should hold everyone to the same standard regardless of age. Now your turn, should we hold everyone to the same standard regardless of gender? Do you believe in equality?
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Old 01-23-2013, 10:20 PM
 
Location: Mille Fin
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No, but many have debated that we should hold everyone to the same standard. How are women going to fireman carry their injured male counterparts from the front lines if they can't even do pushups?

Women accept that this is the case. Do you see women up in arms over not being on the battlefield in Iraq? Some things will favor men for obvious reasons, and I don't see moderate feminists arguing against it.

I agree that in certain situations physical health evaluations should be close to parity, but really, in today's world, what is brute strength required for? I wouldn't jump an armed female cop anymore than I would a male.

In high-risk environments, society accepts that men will be heavily favored. This is in part because women are a much more valuable demographic asset. You only need one man to supply the entire united states with a future generation. But for each baby, you need one woman.
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Old 01-23-2013, 10:22 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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Women accept that this is the case. Do you see women up in arms over not being on the battlefield in Iraq? Some things will favor men for obvious reasons, and I don't see moderate feminists arguing against it.

I agree that in certain situations physical health evaluations should be close to parity, but really, in today's world, what is brute strength required for? I wouldn't jump an armed female cop anymore than I would a male.

In high-risk environments, society accepts that men will be heavily favored. This is in part because women are a much more valuable demographic asset. You only need one man to supply the entire united states with a future generation. But for each baby, you need one woman.
I don't know. Breaking into Bin Laden's compound, engaging in a combination of hand to hand combat and gun fight, assassinating him, dragging his body out of the compound and throwing it onto a boat to bury him at sea.
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Old 01-23-2013, 10:25 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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Yes we should hold everyone to the same standard regardless of age.
So, where's your thread about that?

I'm sure you're not, but you come off as either an imbecile or a misogynist when you make a big deal about women not having to meet standards but say nothing about the difference in age.


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Now your turn, should we hold everyone to the same standard regardless of gender? Do you believe in equality?
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As for the training requirements, women should certainly have to meet the same requirements as men if they are training for the same positions. And those requirements should actually be related to the duties of that position.
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Old 01-23-2013, 10:27 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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So, where's your thread about that?

I'm sure you're not, but you come off as either an imbecile or a misogynist when you make a big deal about women not having to meet standards but say nothing about the difference in age.
How is holding women to the same standards as men misogynistic? I don't understand. Isn't that true equality?
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Old 01-23-2013, 10:29 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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How is holding women to the same standards as men misogynistic? I don't understand.
It's obvious that you don't understand.

Perhaps you should read the entire sentence.
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Old 01-23-2013, 10:30 PM
 
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Its called reverse discrimination really.
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