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Old 01-24-2013, 12:20 PM
 
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Never said that.

But don't cry about sexual harassment if a male is too close during the line up.
And you don't cry about women who haven't even cried about anything. Or are you holding all women accountable for the past actions of a few? I'm sure that's easy for you. Why don't wait to pass judgement on others or is that too hard for you?
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Old 01-24-2013, 12:21 PM
 
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ILL talk about race real quick its been brought up twice. White people and black people are all people, besides cultural differences exactly the same. Men and Woman are not the same. Not at all. That's one reason it can't be compared
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Old 01-24-2013, 12:21 PM
 
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I have no doubt that women can be effective in combat. I remember the Russians had a very feared all female unit that was utterly feared by the germans in WW2.

That being said, there are any number of valid reason why this is a bad idea.

It looks like that ship has sailed. its time to insure the standards for both men and women are the same. I would hate to be in combat and get shot and the only person who could pull me out was a woman who didnt have the strength to get that done.


I served 4 years in the Navy 87 to 91. I was in Desert Storm.
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Old 01-24-2013, 12:23 PM
 
Location: The Brat Stop
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The right-wing's complete lack of respect for female soldiers is a disgusting spectacle.
I was thinking their ignorance was greater than disrespecting, but that's just me.
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Old 01-24-2013, 12:25 PM
 
Location: 9851 Meadowglen Lane, Apt 42, Houston Texas
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ILL talk about race real quick its been brought up twice. White people and black people are all people, besides cultural differences exactly the same. Men and Woman are not the same. Not at all. That's one reason it can't be compared
The reason it's different is that dislike between a white man and a black man is due to cultural upbringings and all those can be un done.

Sexual attraction between a man and a woman is biology and can't be reversed through social engineering.

Gays are applicable but then that's why they remain closeted in the military.
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Old 01-24-2013, 12:26 PM
 
Location: Out in the Badlands
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The right-wing's complete lack of respect for female soldiers is a disgusting spectacle.
And you think the right wing has lack of respect....wait till the meet the enemy. left wing morons.
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Old 01-24-2013, 12:40 PM
 
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You haven't been around long enough to see that the leaners tend to always go back to people like those although they haven't been involved for so long. Also, they don't know much about the Winter Soldier thing so they still love Jon Carry. Most of them don't even know that he attended two North Vietnam meetings in Paris and all of it was against the United States. Worse yet, they can't handle the fact that Carry wrote all his medal requests, himself, or that he even backed off on his first Purple Heart which he got for a very small piece of metal in his finger that the medic claimed he took out with tweezers. Yes, he did take that one off his website in 2004 but he sure used it as one of the three needed to get out of Vietnam with only 4 months of service.

You have to accept the fact that leaners just have to work like that.
No, you just have to accept facts:
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irregular warfare against insurgents in Iraq and Afghanistan blurred the lines between “combat†and “non-combat†roles, meaning that female soldiers have been fighting in combat in practice for roughly a decade. 292,000 American women served in combat zones during in these two wars, 152 of whom were killed in action. There is no evidence that these women’s bravery damaged “unit cohesion†or in any other fashion worsened the ability of soldiers to do their jobs. The evidence from foreign militaries suggest the same. Several American allies in Afghanistan allowed women to serve in “frontline roles,†and found that it had no effect on the performance of the unit in question. Israel’s Caracal Batallion, the country’s famous mixed gender combat unit, has performed admirably in combat situations.Wall Street Journal: Women Shouldn't Be In Combat Because Men Poop | ThinkProgress
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Old 01-24-2013, 12:44 PM
 
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I already mentioned that blacks are not the same thing.
Obviously no one cares what you consider to be the same thing because what you don't want acknowledge is that your arguments aren't particularly different.

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I'm speaking as an infantry soldier saying a fighting unit wont function properly for many different reasons.
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This has nothing to do with woman's rights.
But you are wrong.

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the military is life and death so "testing" something that might get me killed is unacceptable

"It is extremely dangerous nonsense, to try to make the Army other than one thing other than a fighting machine."

Military analyst Hanson W. Baldwin speak to the New York Times re: integration of the Army.


"In the process of evolution the American negro has not progressed as far as the other sub-species of the human family. As a race he has not developed leadership qualities. His mental inferiority and the inherent weaknesses of his character are factors that must be considered with great care in the preparation of any plan for his employment in war. . . ."

The Army War College Studies Black Soldiers, 1925
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Old 01-24-2013, 12:46 PM
 
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Obviously no one cares what you consider to be the same thing because what you don't want acknowledge is that your arguments aren't particularly different.





But you are wrong.




"It is extremely dangerous nonsense, to try to make the Army other than one thing other than a fighting machine."

Military analyst Hanson W. Baldwin speak to the New York Times re: integration of the Army.


"In the process of evolution the American negro has not progressed as far as the other sub-species of the human family. As a race he has not developed leadership qualities. His mental inferiority and the inherent weaknesses of his character are factors that must be considered with great care in the preparation of any plan for his employment in war. . . ."

The Army War College Studies Black Soldiers, 1925
so he was a racist *******, your wrong about everything unless your trying to prove that guy is racist and wrong
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Old 01-24-2013, 12:47 PM
 
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2009-2012 Israel defense forces infantry
Wait. You served in the Israeli military? Not the United States Army?

So you are an Israeli not an American?
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