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Old 09-21-2016, 06:56 PM
 
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Actually we really don't know whether it would work on a scale of millions of people because it has never been done.
The closest the world has ever seen to communism was the Native American tribes before the "discovery" of the Americas. USSR and North Korea are NOT communist by that note and are/were authoritarian states. I'd argue that Native American tribes back in the day were not very authoritarian.
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Old 09-21-2016, 10:05 PM
 
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The closest the world has ever seen to communism was the Native American tribes before the "discovery" of the Americas. USSR and North Korea are NOT communist by that note and are/were authoritarian states. I'd argue that Native American tribes back in the day were not very authoritarian.
I agree. There is not doubt that is true.
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Old 09-21-2016, 11:01 PM
 
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I agree. There is not doubt that is true.
People don't seem to understand that the root word of communism is COMMUNITY. Meaning the COMMUNITY controls the means of production and everything. Not some dictatorship or or authoritarian government, that is quite literally the opposite of communism.
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Old 09-21-2016, 11:35 PM
 
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Then please post information regarding Hillary vs Trumps financial effects on America in the dynamic model.

Or please explain using the dynamic models principles how Donald Trumps policies will improve America.

Thank you,
Chad.
how about instead of me rehashing old posts, you read some of my old posts on the subject, there are enough of them.

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You've been reading too much right wing propaganda. If you would oppose communism intelligently and effectively, try learning about it. Get information that is free of propaganda and scare tactics. The facts are enough and actually arm you for the task of opposing it.
i have been reading up on communism and the old soviet union since the mid 60s.
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Old 09-21-2016, 11:54 PM
 
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how about instead of me rehashing old posts, you read some of my old posts on the subject, there are enough of them.



i have been reading up on communism and the old soviet union since the mid 60s.
Then you should know after fifty years or so of reading that any dictatorship or authoritarian government cannot be communism. Communism can NOT exist until it is enacted WORLD WIDE and the STATE IS DISSOLVED. Marx said that himself. Meaning if there is a government being "communist" and it's only in one country, it's not communism.

Unless of course, you've been reading McCarthyist posters or watching Fox News, which is definitely not biased or propaganda at all.

If you haven't read any of the texts from Marx then you haven't read anything about communism OR SOCIALISM at all.
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Old 09-21-2016, 11:57 PM
 
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Then you should know after fifty years or so of reading that any dictatorship or authoritarian government cannot be communism. Communism can NOT exist until it is enacted WORLD WIDE and the STATE IS DISSOLVED. Marx said that himself. Meaning if there is a government being "communist" and it's only in one country, it's not communism.

Unless of course, you've been reading McCarthyist posters or watching Fox News, which is definitely not biased or propaganda at all.

If you haven't read any of the texts from Marx then you haven't read anything about communism OR SOCIALISM at all.
this rubbish despite the fact that stalin and mao both called themselves communists, as have many other leaders behind the iron curtain.
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Old 09-22-2016, 12:13 AM
 
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this rubbish despite the fact that stalin and mao both called themselves communists, as have many other leaders behind the iron curtain.
Do you know what kind of nonsense that is? Do you also believe that if someone is born with male genitalia but believes they are a woman and calls themselves a woman and uses feminine pronouns, that they actually are a woman?

Or is someone calling themselves what they want to be called is ONLY ok if it fits your bias?

Then how come I hear so many GOPers say that this politician is a RINO, not "really" a Republican? They say they are Republican, so that's all that matters right? Not their actions? Apparently only how someone chooses to label themselves matter?

Or again, unless it fits your bias.

If I say I am an atheist but pray to God every Sunday morning, am I really an atheist?
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Old 09-22-2016, 02:24 AM
 
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Do you know what kind of nonsense that is? Do you also believe that if someone is born with male genitalia but believes they are a woman and calls themselves a woman and uses feminine pronouns, that they actually are a woman?

Or is someone calling themselves what they want to be called is ONLY ok if it fits your bias?

Then how come I hear so many GOPers say that this politician is a RINO, not "really" a Republican? They say they are Republican, so that's all that matters right? Not their actions? Apparently only how someone chooses to label themselves matter?

Or again, unless it fits your bias.

If I say I am an atheist but pray to God every Sunday morning, am I really an atheist?
more rubbish in this post. as i said stalin and mao both said they were communists, as did many other iron curtain countries leaders. i will accept their claims over yours. they at least didnt try clouding the issue.
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Old 09-22-2016, 03:32 AM
 
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more rubbish in this post. as i said stalin and mao both said they were communists, as did many other iron curtain countries leaders. i will accept their claims over yours. they at least didnt try clouding the issue.
What about RINOs? Are they true Republicans then? You're dodging my points because you know I'm right and you're trying to save face on an anonymous website.

If an atheist prays to God every day, they aren't an atheist no matter what they want to be.
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Old 09-22-2016, 09:15 AM
 
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this rubbish despite the fact that stalin and mao both called themselves communists, as have many other leaders behind the iron curtain.
And yet you claim you have been reading up on communism and the old soviet union since the mid 60s.

LOL!!!!



And yet you know so little about communism and socialism.
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