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Obama is turning the liberals into communists as they want to rely on the government for everything.. they love it. Obama is pushing for collectiveism whiich is communism . So what is new. We have a communist in the whtie house for the last 5 years.
Then why does the gov'mint here in ultra-liberal San Francisco encourage people to store supplies so they won't be dependent on the gov'mint after a natural disaster?
Because they know most people won't. Look at NOLA after Katrina, look at NJ after Sandy... people ignore warnings and generally aren't prepared and it's much worse in more urban areas. Rural areas that were literally wiped out after Katrina did a whole lot better than the people of NOLA who were told to leave and didn't.
Because they know most people won't. Look at NOLA after Katrina, look at NJ after Sandy... people ignore warnings and generally aren't prepared and it's much worse in more urban areas.
Yes, but the assertion was the government doesn't want people to prepare for disasters, because it wants to keep them dependent.
At least here in SF, that couldn't be further from the truth.
I love it when people write one sentence contradictory statements. Just a hint, self-sufficiency is the antithesis of cooperation.
LOL! "I love it when people write one sentence contradictory statements." ^^^ (I won't bother with that one) As far as cooperation, that depends on how you visualize what self-sufficiency really is. Self-suffiency is a task everyone must follow; food, storage, water purification, first-aid, certain skill-sets, bartering stock, and yes, security and those evil firearms.
Preparation and "self-suffiency" is a necessary task for everyone in a post (insert disaster here) society, where yes, everyone will rely upon one another to maintain a somewhat comfortable standard of living and orderly society. (there's the cooperation, but if you don't do your part or lack the necessary self-sufficiency skills, you are worthless in any society but the one we have now, which is fragile)
And how in the hell are you arguing that cooperation is necessary, while in the same conversation, arguing the irrationale of the folks who are prepping? Honestly, what is more irrational and intolerant than that?
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Ah, when the conversation revolves around hoarding thousands of rounds of ammunition to protect your stash from the anticipated hoards of fellow citizens, as is usually the tenor of these conversations, my answer is no.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe a single person has mentioned one single bullet, in this thread, until you.[/quote]
At some point after the apocalypse future researchers will stumble upon these isolated archeological sites buried in the ground where they will find the remains of some preper surrounded by their thousands of rounds of ammunition and a bunch of rotting cans of food, who further study found died of some simple ailment that could have been treated a few miles down the road by the doctor who had banded together with other survivors who had shared not only their stuff but their knowledge to reform society.
It will make for a great documentary.
And you would be quick to find the most irrational comment in this thread as a basis for your opinion. Come on, you're not better than that?
You would be mocked by Republicans for doing the same thing if we were under a GOP president today. People in general don't like others who distrust the government they select.
You would be mocked by Republicans for doing the same thing if we were under a GOP president today. People in general don't like others who distrust the government they select.
This didn't start when Obama won, this has gone on for a lot longer than this administration.
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