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Old 01-25-2013, 09:47 PM
 
Location: west mich
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Yes. His comment about the 47% was actally a very salient point, and an important matter that has been largely ignored. This is the number of tax filers who pay zero or less federal income taxes. The number was fairly stable from 1950 to 1990 at around 20 pct. Starting around 1990 it took off like a jet, reaching 47% in 2012.
Tax foundation report on the growth of 'nonpayers' of federal income tax.
It was a major shift that was hardly covered by the MSM or debated in the public discourse. During the election Dems completely demagogued the question. Maybe Mitt Romney can do a terrific public service by revisiting this and other issues. I'm all for it.
Yeah, salient...
That 47%, which is a fictitious number anyway, includes the growing number of working poor as well as the super wealthy - thanks to republican trickle-down.
Plutocracy is un-American and so are lazy plutocrats like your heroes Romney, the Kochs, the Marriotts - you know, the guys who were wealthy in their cribs.
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Old 01-25-2013, 09:53 PM
 
Location: west mich
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Why don't you tell us why Obama and his Democrat Congress didn't change all those Republican mistakes when they were in complete control? Remember that they were spending all their time pushing Obamacare and Stimulus instead of things like you are whining about.
Still at it Roy, repeating the same Fox lies. The dems never had "complete control" and you pretty well know it, since it has been brought out over and over on this forum and in the media.
Oh, and you're admitting to republican "mistakes" that needed "fixing" by democrats?
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Old 01-25-2013, 10:00 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Yeah, salient...
That 47%, which is a fictitious number anyway, includes the growing number of working poor as well as the super wealthy - thanks to republican trickle-down.
Plutocracy is un-American and so are lazy plutocrats like your heroes Romney, the Kochs, the Marriotts - you know, the guys who were wealthy in their cribs.
It was an idiotic comment. 2 of the biggest 47% subsets are veterans and retirees, traditionally better than average in terms of the percentage that vote GOP. He dissed 2 of his own Best groups to rely on!

The Dems have won 5 of the last 6 popular vote totals for POTUS, while during that time, the GOP averaged just 203 electoral votes, but no one running for those 24 years was given as strong a hand (7.9% unemp.14.7% U6, 1,5 trill deficit) as the 2012 clown who got shellacked.

It was an achievement in the same way as the Titanic's maiden voyage was an achievement.
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Old 01-25-2013, 10:45 PM
 
Location: Jawjah
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#1 He is employed. His job probably pays more than yours.
He is not employed. He is living off his investments.

Mitt Romney Declares Himself A Self-Employed Author In Campaign Filing Report
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Old 01-26-2013, 01:19 AM
 
Location: west mich
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It was an idiotic comment. 2 of the biggest 47% subsets are veterans and retirees, traditionally better than average in terms of the percentage that vote GOP. He dissed 2 of his own Best groups to rely on!

The Dems have won 5 of the last 6 popular vote totals for POTUS, while during that time, the GOP averaged just 203 electoral votes, but no one running for those 24 years was given as strong a hand (7.9% unemp.14.7% U6, 1,5 trill deficit) as the 2012 clown who got shellacked.

It was an achievement in the same way as the Titanic's maiden voyage was an achievement.
The mainstream media gave him every break, portraying him as an astute successful businessman even though he was born with it. He was basically a used car salesman, a pretender who could only communicate with his own class, and who evaded giving specifics about his platform and budget. His platform was "Trust me, I'm rich" and he got a lot of votes based on that. He utilized offshore tax shelters and many middle-class voters were okay with it.
Looks like his corporate base knew that Americans are suckers for a sales pitch. But do repubs really dislike him? I don't know what Fox is saying.
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Old 01-26-2013, 01:41 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Mitt didn't win the election? OMG! Those Fox polls had Mitt winning by a landslide. Rove and Dick Morris predicted landslides as well. Surely Mitt is today's president, no?
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Old 01-26-2013, 01:58 AM
 
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Yes. His comment about the 47% was actally a very salient point, and an important matter that has been largely ignored. This is the number of tax filers who pay zero or less federal income taxes. The number was fairly stable from 1950 to 1990 at around 20 pct. Starting around 1990 it took off like a jet, reaching 47% in 2012.

Tax foundation report on the growth of 'nonpayers' of federal income tax.

It was a major shift that was hardly covered by the MSM or debated in the public discourse. During the election Dems completely demagogued the question. Maybe Mitt Romney can do a terrific public service by revisiting this and other issues. I'm all for it.
The democrats know that 47% of Americans depend on the government to put food on the table. Romney told it like it was and you didn't like it. AND, do you really think the 47%ers voted for Romney? The majority didn't.

So you better get a thicker skin already, the welfare party has a lot more truths to look forward to.

Obama told so many lies and for people to believe him they will be sorely disappointed when it's all said and done..
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Old 01-26-2013, 02:04 AM
 
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Romney did not call those people desperate moochers. Those words came from left stretches of what they thought they heard. Listen to the Mother Jones copy of what Romney said and maybe you will realize that he did not say those words.
Give it up, the dems want to feel justified. How many people tried to tell them that it was the truth that most of the 47% would vote for Obama and a good business man knows that if something can not be changed there is no sense in throwing money at it.

No, Dems would rather act like a bunch of offended babies. The truth hurt their feelings
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Old 01-26-2013, 02:08 AM
 
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Mitt didn't win the election? OMG! Those Fox polls had Mitt winning by a landslide. Rove and Dick Morris predicted landslides as well. Surely Mitt is today's president, no?
LOL, Think about it this way. Obama had main stream media behind him feeding you lies. He had a freakin army behind him and he still didn't win over the majority of Americans.

Obama won by making it easy to vote multiple times. The Dems said it was too hard for you to get a photo ID. You do realize that the Dems said you were either incapable or too stupid. Are you proud of being thought of this way?
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Old 01-26-2013, 02:44 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Mainstream media did feed me those polls with obama leading. Fox news fed you polls with mitt winning. Who lied to who?
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