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Old 01-27-2013, 07:43 AM
 
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Mitt Romney: ?I?m not going away? - Anna Palmer - POLITICO.com

So Republicans, do you want this unemployed loser hanging around your party in public?
I would much rather have him then the employed LOSER in the WH now. At least has morals and a conscience, something Obama doesn't.
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Old 01-27-2013, 09:33 AM
 
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Taxes have been lowered to a point where there are fewer payers. Ironically Romey wanted to lower them even more.
What you really should say is that there are less people working. With less people working then there are less people paying taxes. Obama's answer was to increase taxes on people who produce product, services and jobs. In reaction the employers reduced expenses (reduced employment). Obamas answer will not produce a strong economy.

A good president who understands how an economy works would have did what it takes to increase jobs so more people are working so more people pay taxes. That is what Romney wanted to do. He wanted to reduce taxes so people would have more money in their paychecks and employers would pay less in taxes. By doing this, people would spend more, employers would hire more because of the increase demand and decrease in expenses.

It's amazing that people didn't understand that. They were so worried about the rich getting ahead that they cut off their noses in spite.

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Old 01-27-2013, 09:39 AM
 
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I would much rather have him then the employed LOSER in the WH now. At least has morals and a conscience, something Obama doesn't.
Look at the each of the candidates campaign message.

Obama:
Very negative, emotional, spiteful message, negative result.
Tax the rich! Then what Mr President? How is taxing the rich going to help increase jobs, help Americans keep more of their money or get raises. Now Obamas wants to increase spending. He already said he is going to raise taxes again. But, (very important) there are not enough rich people he is going to have to increase taxes on the middle class. All Obama is doing is siphoning money from the American people to the already booming and rich Washington DC.

Romney:
A positive message, beneficial to the American people.
Reduce taxes, broaden the base (increase the number of people employed). People would get to keep more of their money and they would spend that money. More people working and increased spending the tax revenues to the government would increase.

It is very sad that people are so spiteful that they voted for the man with the negative, spiteful message even when doing what he promised will not help them personally. When the taxes went up on the rich, was the smile worth not getting anything to help you personally?

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Old 01-27-2013, 10:00 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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Look at the each of the candidates campaign message.

Obama:
Very negative, emotional, spiteful message, negative result.
Tax the rich! Then what Mr President? How is taxing the rich going to help increase jobs, help Americans keep more of their money or get raises. Now Obamas wants to increase spending. He already said he is going to raise taxes again. But, (very important) there are not enough rich people he is going to have to increase taxes on the middle class. All Obama is doing is siphoning money from the American people to the already booming and rich Washington DC.

Romney:
A positive message, beneficial to the American people.
Reduce taxes, broaden the base (increase the number of people employed). People would get to keep more of their money and they would spend that money. More people working and increased spending the tax revenues to the government would increase.

It is very sad that people are so spiteful that they voted for the man with the negative, spiteful message even when doing what he promised will not help them personally. When the taxes went up on the rich, was the smile worth not getting anything to help you personally?
Voting for a message that was pure fantasy would have been even sadder.
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Old 01-27-2013, 10:03 AM
 
Location: Jawjah
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It is very sad that people are so spiteful that they voted for the man with the negative, spiteful message even when doing what he promised will not help them personally.
Bwahahahaha....negative and spiteful? Surely you mean the Tea Partiers. Their constant message of hate and bigotry against the President (birthers), minorities (self-deportation, restricting voter rights) and women?

America saw through the Tea Party - our nation gave the Tea Partiers a chance in 2010 on the message of jobs. Then they realized their mistake..the Tea Party agenda is just to install Christian Sharia Law in America and a message of hate. And we are having none of it.
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Old 01-27-2013, 12:39 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Bwahahahaha....negative and spiteful? Surely you mean the Tea Partiers. Their constant message of hate and bigotry against the President (birthers), minorities (self-deportation, restricting voter rights) and women?

America saw through the Tea Party - our nation gave the Tea Partiers a chance in 2010 on the message of jobs. Then they realized their mistake..the Tea Party agenda is just to install Christian Sharia Law in America and a message of hate. And we are having none of it.
Now, now just because the TP trails head lice in popularity ....
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Old 01-27-2013, 12:51 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Yes. His comment about the 47% was actally a very salient point, and an important matter that has been largely ignored. This is the number of tax filers who pay zero or less federal income taxes. The number was fairly stable from 1950 to 1990 at around 20 pct. Starting around 1990 it took off like a jet, reaching 47% in 2012.
Whoa ! I thought Obama caused this to happen.

The legacy EITC has continuously increased to keep pace with inflation.
The legacy child credit is not new.
The aging population has and will continue to put more people into the 47%, every day.
The recession put many new people in this bracket. Not all are living in poverty.
Strategies used to maximize the tax code are used by high income earners to reduce their effective tax rates.
And somehow, the most profitable corporation in the world often manages to pay no federal income tax.
Oh yeah, the declining illegal immigration and too many folk on welfare, blah, blah, blah. It's all their fault.
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Old 01-27-2013, 12:54 PM
 
Location: The Brat Stop
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Please go away.
And try to get lost.

This is a lost party.
We need a real conservative (not a religious right pandering mealy mouthed slickster) to bring it back to what it needs to be.
Sorry, Tip O'Neill has passed away.
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Old 01-27-2013, 01:24 PM
 
Location: west mich
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Yes, I do. Romney is not the guy I voted for in my state's primary - he's not the guy I wanted the Republicans to run for President. But I see no reason why he shouldn't "hang around". Conservatives don't march in lockstep and don't have ideological tests the way liberals do. You don't get ostracized for not toeing the line as a conservative the way you do if you become too politically incorrect as a liberal.
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You nailed it. Conservatives think for themselves.
You both have adopted a Hannity talking point, ascribing liberal traits to yourselves. What is it about dictionaries and science that is so repugnant to righties?
Study finds left-wing brain, right-wing brain - latimes.com

Liberal:
* "Not limited to or by established, traditional, orthodox, or authoritarian attitudes, views, or dogmas; free from bigotry".
* "Favoring proposals for reform, open to new ideas for progress, and tolerant of the ideas and behavior of others; broad-minded".
Conservative:
* " Favoring traditional views and values; tending to oppose change.

* "
Traditional or restrained in style".

* "Moderate; cautious".

The above suggests that conservatives value safety and predictability, and will seek to legislate it. A "comfortable bubble".
Conservative are more fear-driven, just look at who all the gun nuts are.
Also, nobody is either totally conservative or liberal, it's a spectrum. The great liberal/conservative divide was dreamed up by Limbaugh or his handlers for the purposes of "divide-and-conquer" politically, and most righties fell right into the trap. You all bought into Romney's 47% nonsense without a thought. Is this "free thinking"?

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Old 01-28-2013, 05:48 PM
 
Location: Where they serve real ale.
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I hope Romney does stick around. It is good to remind everyone exactly what a failure as a party the Republicans currently are.
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