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Old 01-28-2013, 11:39 AM
 
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The statistician made the chart, not the agency, and she could have just as easily worked for a bank in Kansas City. My decision science prof. used to build models and trends in his spare time too, it really isn't that unusual.

Here is her personal website and the site the data was taken from.

http://fosslien.com
I'm quite aware of who she is. And I also know how paid her. An advertising/marketing company. Again, I treat all advertising/marketing companies with the same skepticism I treat lobbyists. They do different aspects of the same job.
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Old 01-28-2013, 11:44 AM
 
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That's why we need national gun control laws..When criminals can go to places like Texas and buy guns freely and bring them to cities like DC there's a problem..Straw buyers are problems. Comprehensive gun control is the way to go...Thanks for pointing this out!!

We just need to ban people, then there would not be any crime.
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Old 01-28-2013, 11:53 AM
 
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We just need to ban people, then there would not be any crime.
Yeah, let's empty out the U.S. and just leave the holy guns behind, since they're so wonderful.
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Old 01-28-2013, 11:53 AM
 
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I'm quite aware of who she is. And I also know how paid her. An advertising/marketing company. Again, I treat all advertising/marketing companies with the same skepticism I treat lobbyists. They do different aspects of the same job.
So your assertion is that an advertising company paid her to write a personal blog covering topics such as gang finances, the profile of a pomona student, comparing Mitt Romney to Lil Wayne, Happy Mother's day, and guns in the US? Somehow I find that hard to believe, but I gave you ample supporting data which you can either read or dismiss.
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Old 01-28-2013, 11:58 AM
 
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So your assertion is that an advertising company paid her to write a personal blog covering topics such as gang finances, the profile of a pomona student, comparing Mitt Romney to Lil Wayne, Happy Mother's day, and guns in the US? Somehow I find that hard to believe, but I gave you ample supporting data which you can either read or dismiss.
My assertion is that advertising companies are, by their very nature, propagandists, who promote in exchange for payment, whatever product they're paid to promote, regardless of what that product is. They're not paid to trash the product they're being paid to promote.
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Old 01-28-2013, 03:06 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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I have no clue why it is somehow worse for someone to end their life with a gun as opposed to hanging themselves in the woods.
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Why are you still bringing up suicide? Do you honestly think guns drive suicide? Japan has a very low gun ownership rate, but a very high suicide rate - close to 20 per 100K.
Why are you guys putting words in my mouth? I said nothing about suicide in either post. I've deliberately stayed away from actual causes of death by gun because other than homicide and suicide the "rest" of it is all over the map. Of the 100 of the 300 shootings daily in America that result in death, 30+ are homicide, 30+ are suicide and 30+ can be anything from a child playing to a gun discharging while being cleaned, etc. Think of it, 30+ deaths daily that don't happen anywhere else in the world because nowhere else in the world are guns treated so casually, so recklessly yet so obsessively revered as in America. Lots of the dead are young. Really young. We talk about our aging population and how there aren't going to be enough young people to support Social Security and do the work that needs doing to move America forward. You wouldn't know it to see the way we ship young people off to this part of the world and that with guns on their shoulders. You wouldn't belive it to see the way we encourage young people to learn to shoot guns and like them and everything... knowing how young people get when they are drunk or high or in large numbers... .. and you guys call us the nutty ones. The mentally defective ones... ... *******s... oh the ****** irony!!!

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Old 01-28-2013, 03:11 PM
 
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Why are you guys putting words in my mouth? I said nothing about suicide in either post. I've deliberately stayed away from actual causes of death by gun because other than homicide and suicide the "rest" of it is all over the map. Of the 100 of the 300 shootings daily in America that result in death, 30+ are homicide, 30+ are suicide and 30+ can be anything from a child playing to a gun discharging while being cleaned, etc. Think of it, 30+ deaths daily that don't happen anywhere else in the world because nowhere else in the world are guns treated so casually, so recklessly yet so obsessively revered as in America. Lots of the dead are young. Really young. We talk about our aging population and how there aren't going to be enough young people to support Social Security and do the work that needs doing to move America forward. You wouldn't know it to see the way we ship young people off to this part of the world and that with guns on their shoulders. You wouldn't belive it to see the way we encourage young people to learn to shoot guns and like them and everything... knowing how young people get when they are drunk or high or in large numbers... .. and you guys call us the nutty ones. The mentally defective ones... ... *******s... oh the ****** irony!!!

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I'm all for gun safety classes in schools. Let's get it started.
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Old 01-28-2013, 03:30 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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In the big picture it really means very little.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publicat.../2066rank.html
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Old 01-28-2013, 03:33 PM
 
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I thought D.C. was supposed to be safe with all their gun control.

"Five people were shot at a the DC Soundstage early Saturday. It happened just after 2:30 a.m. in the 2400 block of Benning Road NE. Continue reading
Police say a man was shot in the left eye and a woman was shot in the chest. Both were taken to MedStar in critical condition, but police now say they are stable. Three others were taken to separate hospitals with non life-threatening injuries.
Police are looking for a black man with a goatee. He was wearing a black skull cap. Anyone with information should call police."


DC Soundstage shooting: Five shot at nightclub | WJLA.com
Bloomberg: A seven round clip restriction could have prevented that shooting, I'm just sure of it.
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Old 01-28-2013, 03:38 PM
 
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In the big picture it really means very little.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publicat.../2066rank.html
Interesting, we are a slight notch below the Netherlands.
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