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Old 01-26-2013, 10:59 PM
 
Location: On the "Left Coast", somewhere in "the Land of Fruits & Nuts"
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Are we forgetting that those on the fringe wing of the liberal spectrum were conspiracy theorists during GWB's years. I remember liberals accusing then governor of Florida, Jeb Bush, of conspiring to steal the election on behalf of his brother. You remember when liberals implicated GWB in the 9/11 attacks? Even today, some on the fringe left believe oil was behind the Iraq invasion.

I'm a liberal, but you must not deny the fact that conspiracy nuts exist on both sides.
When over half the Republican party are still Birthers and over a third believe the POTUS is secretly a muslim, it's pretty absurd to suggest there's currently even the slightest bit of ''equivalency'' in the ''nutter'' dept.

In fact it's folks like you who help provide cover and actually ''enable'' the problem (some ''lib-rul'' indeed)...
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Old 01-26-2013, 11:06 PM
 
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When over half the Republican party are still Birthers and over a third believe the POTUS is secretly a muslim, it's pretty absurd to suggest there's currently even the slightest bit of ''equivalency'' in the ''nutter'' dept.

In fact it's folks like you who help provide cover and actually ''enable'' the problem (some ''lib-rul'' indeed)...
Where are the facts to back up those claims? The poll posted earlier doesn't say either of those points.
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Old 01-26-2013, 11:09 PM
 
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No, although I would judge it possible that there was more foreknowledge on the part of some intelligence services than was disclosed. But malfeasance in the 2000 election, while it may technically be a conspiracy theory in the sense that it alleges concerted criminality by more than one person, is hardly the same thing. The same goes for the role that dominance of oil plays in international affairs. Both of those things may be right or wrong, but there is no a priori improbability about them, as the epithet "conspiracy theory" would seem to imply.
So basically you admit to being a left wing conspiracy nut, you just don't want to be called one? Got it.
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Old 01-26-2013, 11:09 PM
 
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Where are the facts to back up those claims? The poll posted earlier doesn't say either of those points.
Tell me what difference they'll make to you, and I'll be happy to post 'em... seeing as your Google is obviously broken!
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Old 01-26-2013, 11:11 PM
 
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Tell me what difference they'll make to you, and I'll be happy to post 'em... seeing as your Google is obviously broken!
Is it wrong of me to ask you to post some form of fact to back up the 2 claims you just made? You're clearly quoting some data from somewhere right? Why not share it with the rest of us?
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Old 01-26-2013, 11:18 PM
 
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Where are the facts to back up those claims? The poll posted earlier doesn't say either of those points.
Original study: Fairleigh Dickinson poll on conspiracy theories

Report about the study: As Many As 64 Percent Of Republicans Are Birthers, Poll Finds | ThinkProgress

Almost 1/3rd of Republicans believe the President is a secret Muslim: Poll: 30% Of Republicans Think Obama Is A Muslim

40% of Republicans believe there are secret death panels in the health insurance reform bill: Poll: Four in 10 believe in Obama healthcare law

Look, if you're going to play denialism wack a mole could you at least be creative enough to not do it on issues which right wingers make threads about here on a daily basis? Failing that you could both to just, you know, read the news occasionally. Real news.
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Old 01-26-2013, 11:22 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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So basically you admit to being a left wing conspiracy nut, you just don't want to be called one? Got it.
Eh, no. Back to reading comprehension you go.
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Old 01-27-2013, 12:45 AM
 
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Original study: Fairleigh Dickinson poll on conspiracy theories

Report about the study: As Many As 64 Percent Of Republicans Are Birthers, Poll Finds | ThinkProgress

Almost 1/3rd of Republicans believe the President is a secret Muslim: Poll: 30% Of Republicans Think Obama Is A Muslim

40% of Republicans believe there are secret death panels in the health insurance reform bill: Poll: Four in 10 believe in Obama healthcare law

Look, if you're going to play denialism wack a mole could you at least be creative enough to not do it on issues which right wingers make threads about here on a daily basis? Failing that you could both to just, you know, read the news occasionally. Real news.
I can't rep you enough times for that great post. Your post needs to be read by conservatives over and over.... but even then they'll still find a way to live in denial about their own conspiracy madness.
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Old 01-27-2013, 01:31 AM
 
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Tell me what difference they'll make to you, and I'll be happy to post 'em... seeing as your Google is obviously broken!
Other people shouldn't have to go research the things you present. If you want to be taken seriously, then you should be prepared to back up your facts yourself.
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Old 01-27-2013, 01:40 AM
 
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Both sides have their conspiracy theorists.

The difference is that liberal conspiracy theorists make up sophisticated and exciting theories, sort of like a Hollywood spy movie while the Tea Partiers have theories which are dumb as hell and involve race or bigotry at some level (birthers, etc.)
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