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Inanimate objects, as such, are harmless unless accessed by a person
A gun is an inanimate object
Therefore guns are harmless unless accessed by a person.
However much like the false equivalency gun supporters like to make about the lethality of weapons:
gun=knife=rock etc. ....you're just as dead blah, blah, blah.......
Here is the inanimate object false equivalency.
To use pknopp's line "the gun didn't walk into the room and fire itself off."
Why don't we hear things like: "The marshmellow didn't just hurl itself against the guys skull."
This is because the lethality of inantimate objects is not the same.
guns, knives, rocks are more inherently dangerous than marshmellows, sponges and a glob of oatmeal.
Yes! Exactly my point! Comparing guns to cars (or TVs or rocks) is absolutely insane! The lethal nature of guns is built into the design of the object!
How many kids are injured by lawn mowers yearly?
How many kids are injured by baseballs and softballs yearly?
How many kids are injured riding their bicycles?
I could go on and on.
Gun injuries to kids, is lower than the above.
Should we ban those things, our kids do daily?
You obviously are not understanding the false equivalency of guns compared to those items which has been SO clearly outlined for you above. If you don't read, then don't speak.
Yes! Exactly my point! Comparing guns to cars (or TVs or rocks) is absolutely insane! The lethal nature of guns is built into the design of the object!
At the gun show here, they had a display of lethal wounds caused by weapons other than guns. Really awful. Believe it or not, knives, hatchets, axes can kill.
Guns absolutely have no intent. They are merely inanimate objects that can be used by murderers to kill people but can also be used by very innocent people to defend themselves against these thugs.
But Obama is no longer making gun control his top priority -- that was his top priority two weeks ago. His new top priority is now amnesty for anyone who gets here illegally. Gun control is an old issue, Obama has moved on and so should you.
Good thing he had a 2nd loaded gun on the table... who knows how many times he would have shot himself if he didn't.
Thank god for that, because the best way to reduce being shot by guns is more guns. I always enjoy these stupid news stories, though sometimes they are just to tragic.
Inanimate objects, as such, are harmless unless accessed by a person
A gun is an inanimate object
Therefore guns are harmless unless accessed by a person.
However much like the false equivalency gun supporters like to make about the lethality of weapons:
gun=knife=rock etc. ....you're just as dead blah, blah, blah.......
Here is the inanimate object false equivalency.
To use pknopp's line "the gun didn't walk into the room and fire itself off."
Why don't we hear things like: "The marshmellow didn't just hurl itself against the guys skull."
This is because the lethality of inantimate objects is not the same.
guns, knives, rocks are more inherently dangerous than marshmellows, sponges and a glob of oatmeal.
Despite you thinking you made some point here, you didn't. Whether or not something can be lethal still does not change the fact that the object itself didn't harm anyone.
You seem to want to make the same argument that the OP decided to avoid after making it. Sure a gun can be dangerous, but like I said, so is mountain climbing. A large percentage of mountain climbers are killed or injured every year. Is it the fault of the mountain and are you campaigning to make this practice illegal?
We put more limits on both of those activities than on gun use.
No we don't. Absolutely anyone can own a car. A convicted felon? You can still own a car. There are no limits at all placed on mountain climbing.
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As someone who has grown up and lived in the rural Midwest, surrounded by guns and gunowners, I can state something that others can probably echo, if they're being honest: It was generally the dumber kids in class who spent most of their time playing with guns. Dumb kids grow up to be dumb adults, the ones who hang out at gun shows and shoot themselves in the feet. Dumb people, for whatever reason, tend to get more excited over blowing things up or killing things indiscriminately. I don't know why exactly, but it is so. You show me a dumb person in the rural areas of this country, and I'll show you someone who loves guns, demolition derbies and firecrackers. It's uncanny.
You've already shown a propensity to be dishonest here so..........................
People CHOOSE to climb mountains; people CHOOSE dangerous sporting activities. These activities are dangerous to themselves only.
This isn't true. Many a climber has made an error in judgement and taken another down with him. But the point was the OP argued that guns should be banned for the reason they were "inherently dangerous". Many thinks are inherently dangerous and there is no big push to ban them.
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However, your (not you personally) ignorance of firearms can harm OTHERS. Your failure to properly secure your guns can lead to harm to OTHERS. So many people who claim to be so knowledgeable about guns - are not - as we see time and time again. So many cases I've been involved in where people claiming to know firearms accidently shot one another OR allowed their gun to get into the wrong hands - including children; often with devastating consequences to OTHER people.
And calling for some type of regulation does not equal calling for a ban. See the difference?
Yes, you are arguing that one must be far more responsible with certain actions we take compared to others. Nobody would argue otherwise. The argument comes in when you decide to argue that whatever we are discussing needs stopped because a small percentage abuse whatever practice we are discussing.
We should absolutely deal in the harshest terms those who abuse their rights here. The NRA has called for strong laws to address those who abuse their rights. The president came out and said he was going to instruct the justice dept to actually enforce current laws. It's not the fault of gun owners they haven't been all along. I really doubt they do now either but I suppose that is another story.
I work in a pretty dangerous environment. We deal will all sort of chemicals and what have you. There have been those who acted in irresponsible manners (ie Bhopal) but that is not a reason to go back to a 19th century way of life.
The article says the moron wasn't charged. He was in possession of his firearm, it discharged accidentally, it could have injured an innocent, and as such he should have been charged.
He should have been charged. His ability to own a gun should have been restricted. He should have at a minimum been forced to attend gun safety classes before being allowed to own a gun again. I imagine this would have greatly affected his livelyhood but it wouldn't likely happen again.
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But extrapolating from that article that everyone (as in millions of everyones) who go to gun shows are idiots makes YOU sound like an idiot.
If you want to make (yet one more) case against guns have at it. But insulting millions of responsible gun owners and denigrating all those who attend gun shows will only gin up support from gun-banning-cheerleaders. The rest of us will just ignore you. As we should.
You will note that the OP was unable to stick around to defend his position.
At the gun show here, they had a display of lethal wounds caused by weapons other than guns. Really awful. Believe it or not, knives, hatchets, axes can kill.
Guns absolutely have no intent. They are merely inanimate objects that can be used by murderers to kill people but can also be used by very innocent people to defend themselves against these thugs.
But Obama is no longer making gun control his top priority -- that was his top priority two weeks ago. His new top priority is now amnesty for anyone who gets here illegally. Gun control is an old issue, Obama has moved on and so should you.
You are politically unaware if you think this administration is abandoning gun control.
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Comparing guns to cars (or TVs or rocks) is absolutely insane! The lethal nature of guns is built into the design of the object!
