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I have heard some scary stories about that town from a friend that lived in St Louis. My friend is a photographer and apparently the best views of St Louis are in East St Louis and one day when he was taking photos over there he had a cop pull up, tell him that he was in a dangerous area and escorted him back to the highway. That is just one of the non-exciting stories I remember, but he had much better ones.
Is there anybody else on this thread from Chicago?
Doubt it, I keep trying to tell the MODs to move these Chicago threads to the Chicago forum where they belong, if the people in this section of City Data care so much about Chicago then they can go to the Chicago forum and post about this topic there.
Unfortunately the MODs aren't moving any of these threads.
I have heard some scary stories about that town from a friend that lived in St Louis. My friend is a photographer and apparently the best views of St Louis are in East St Louis and one day when he was taking photos over there he had a cop pull up, tell him that he was in a dangerous area and escorted him back to the highway. That is just one of the non-exciting stories I remember, but he had much better ones.
I know about East St. Louis and how dangerous it is. I might imagine it would be that scary. However, East St. Louis is also one of the most polluted cities in the USA, possibly the most polluted.
Yeah because it is human nature to think about how much money one has when they want to have sex. I am sure you tell kids to ignore their hormones if they are pulling down a six figure income too. Usually states that practice abstinence tends to have a higher teenage birth rate, odd how that works.
birth control or responsibility... wow crazy of me to suggest it.
why hasn't it been realized kids cost far more than birth control? This is something Planned Parenthood has been great at... low cost birth control. It would be cheaper for the government to give it away vs kids on welfare... and no that isn't my choice, people can pay for it, if they can put a gallonb of gas in a car, or buy a big mac they can pay for a months birth control.
birth control or responsibility... wow crazy of me to suggest it.
why hasn't it been realized kids cost far more than birth control? This is something Planned Parenthood has been great at... low cost birth control. It would be cheaper for the government to give it away vs kids on welfare... and no that isn't my choice, people can pay for it, if they can put a gallonb of gas in a car, or buy a big mac they can pay for a months birth control.
Now if only silly things like religion wouldn't get in the way of contraception.
I was raised that if you can't afford to support kids then you better figure out how to have sex without getting anyone pregnant. Pretty simple.
If you can't keep your hormones in check then be ready to pay the consequences. But I am not paying for it. That's why the war on poverty is a failure for the most part. It rids people of any personal responsibility.
And I do love older people, I am one. Bad guess on the conservative part, but definitely not liberal.
Well a lot of us came from this type of era, whre you just knew you better not. I was also raised this way, and my dad was a strict Italian Father, strict.
I don't know if it was scared or drilled into us to be a certain way, and to not be a certain way, but we got the message loud and clear.
I think today, those having sex see it much differently and for so many they do not think about the consequences of having a child, or a fatherless child. And your right, this is why there is so much poverty, some of these babies having children, never even graduated from High School, and that is sad.
So many of these people see a world where being responsible for one's own actions mean nothing , when so many Americans are not personal responsible for the mistakes they make. And they know no other way.
Well a lot of us came from this type of era, whre you just knew you better not. I was also raised this way, and my dad was a strict Italian Father, strict.
I don't know if it was scared or drilled into us to be a certain way, and to not be a certain way, but we got the message loud and clear.
I think today, those having sex see it much differently and for so many they do not think about the consequences of having a child, or a fatherless child. And your right, this is why there is so much poverty, some of these babies having children, never even graduated from High School, and that is sad.
So many of these people see a world where being responsible for one's own actions mean nothing , when so many Americans are not personal responsible for the mistakes they make. And they know no other way.
Take kids away from irresponsible parents and there goes the incentive.
I do not understand the mentality of people... They look around and see their surroundings, they are poor and have next to nothing, yet they want to bring a child into the world to share what they have? selfish! If you can't afford birth control you can't afford sex.
Is Chicago the Darwinian exercise in practice?
My dad got his start in Chicago. We're a meat packing family. We started out dirt poor. Living in government housing on food stamps.
My dad now owns his own business and so do I.
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