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Old 01-27-2013, 03:30 PM
 
Location: Out in the Badlands
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It would turn into another s _ _ _ hole. And there are lots of them out there...do some international traveling.
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Old 01-27-2013, 03:31 PM
 
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When you can articulate a factual argument substantiated by evidence, feel free to post again. Until then, continue eating your boogers while watching spongebob kid.

Are there more people in the U.S. who were born here, or who immigrated here?

The USA was created and founded as beacon for anyone around the world who wanted to brave the elements to get here and live free and pursue happiness. That hasn't changed and shouldn't change. The USA will only be the USA unless we preserve it as a land for people who want to be free.

Go read what it says on the Statue of Liberty.
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Old 01-27-2013, 03:32 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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The USA was created and founded as beacon for anyone around the world who wanted to brave the elements to get here and live free and pursue happiness. That hasn't changed and shouldn't change. The USA will only be the USA unless we preserve it as a land for people who want to be free.

Go read what it says on the Statue of Liberty.
That's fine with a caveat that they cannot apply for any means tested welfare programs for 10 years.
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Old 01-27-2013, 03:35 PM
 
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Immigration is good for countries. If we didn't have legal and illegal immigration our population would be declining. Immigrants come to the country to work and start businesses.

I'm really going to look forward to the know-nothing wing of the GOP to start foaming at the mouth once the immigration reform bill or bills start getting closer to being passed and signed by Obama. I will be making popcorn and enjoying the gnashing of teeth and impotent rage.
Aren't you mainline leftists always complaining that the environment is being trashed because of too many people? Immigration has benefits, within reason, just like everything else. Flooding the world's poor into our borders will not magically make our GDP go up. There's a reason why developed countries have strict criteria on about who we let in. Quality, not quantity. Until we reach full employment, mass immigration is a bad idea. It is anti-working class down to the core, more immigrants gives the managerial class more excuses to cut wages even further and dilute the power of unions. Is that what you want? You want to put unions and working people on the sacrificial altar just so you can rub it in the xenophobes' faces?
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Old 01-27-2013, 03:35 PM
 
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The USA was created and founded as beacon for anyone around the world who wanted to brave the elements to get here and live free and pursue happiness. That hasn't changed and shouldn't change. The USA will only be the USA unless we preserve it as a land for people who want to be free.

Go read what it says on the Statue of Liberty.
Fortunately the statue of liberty has no effect on governmental policy.

Free? In the U.S.?

Are you serious? LOL
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Old 01-27-2013, 03:38 PM
 
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Aren't you mainline leftists always complaining that the environment is being trashed because of too many people? Immigration has benefits, within reason, just like everything else. Flooding the world's poor into our borders will not magically make our GDP go up. There's a reason why developed countries have strict criteria on about who we let in. Quality, not quantity. Until we reach full employment, mass immigration is a bad idea. It is anti-working class down to the core, more immigrants gives the managerial class more excuses to cut wages even further and dilute the power of unions. Is that what you want? You want to put unions and working people on the sacrificial altar just so you can rub it in the xenophobes' faces?
Being for immigration reform is a leftist thing? I didn't know that.
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Old 01-27-2013, 03:40 PM
 
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Fortunately the statue of liberty has no effect on governmental policy.

Free? In the U.S.?

Are you serious? LOL
I feel free. I do what I want and live how I want to. I guess you're free to leave if you want to.
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Old 01-27-2013, 03:41 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Being for immigration reform is a leftist thing? I didn't know that.
It will be amnesty, not true reform.

We've been down this path before and we're right back where we started with 12-20 million illegals in this country, many of them poor and uneducated.
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Old 01-27-2013, 03:42 PM
 
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It will be amnesty, not true reform.

We've been down this path before and we're right back where we started with 12-20 million illegals in this country, many of them poor and uneducated.
You've read the unwritten bills already?
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Old 01-27-2013, 03:45 PM
 
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I feel free. I do what I want and live how I want to. I guess you're free to leave if you want to.
Actually no one is free to leave without paying tribute to the United States Government.

Oh, well just because you feel free I guess that settles the matter.

Yup, The U.S. is a free country because you feel free.
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