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Old 01-28-2013, 09:56 AM
 
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Maybe you could review the meaning of "Immigrant".
If one is going to use the word immigrant then they should clafify if they mean the legal or illegal kind. They are two entirely different groups where on migrated here within our laws and one didn't. Those lines should never be blurred.

Your one-liner reply didn't even address the remarks in my post at all. Why is that?
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Old 01-28-2013, 04:57 PM
 
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I hear in some states, illegals are allowed to drive or keep their cars without a license. I can't remember the whole story. And speaking of Spanish, seems like all the jobs (at least in California) require citizens to be bilingual nowadays.
Illinois is one of those states. They have been allowed to go to the DMV and get vehicles registered in their names with never providing ID, Insurance, etc. Now the morons in office are giving them drivers liceneses, instead of booting them out of the state.

I cant wait until I can leave this hell hole. 13-14 more years!!!
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Old 01-28-2013, 05:04 PM
 
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Winter sucks,

Where'd ya go? What other brain busters do ya have? American's immigration problem is a disaster,...stop spewing your propaganda.
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Old 01-28-2013, 05:05 PM
 
Location: southern california
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if you define everyone that enters from mexico as an immigrant then whatever is happening in mexico will happen here.
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Old 01-28-2013, 05:18 PM
 
Location: WY
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If one is going to use the word immigrant then they should clafify if they mean the legal or illegal kind. They are two entirely different groups where on migrated here within our laws and one didn't. Those lines should never be blurred.
I immigrated here legally from Canada, have been here for 16 years and about six months ago finally became an American citizen.

Some random thoughts on this issue:

1. Legal immigrants have to pay a LOT of money to get here. And the process takes YEARS.

2. They have to provide extensive background information to the feds re: their places of residence, their education, their professional background. They have to be able to prove that they have enough money (either at their immediate disposal or that they can earn by working) so as to not be a burden on the social safety net of the United States. They have to provide a detailed accounting of all of their medical records and if they have not be innoculated against certain diseases they are required to get them. They are fingerprinted by the FBI and a criminal background check is conducted on them. They have to have a physical (including an AIDS test). They are interviewed repeatedly and have to swear (in writing and in person) that they have never been a member of the Nazi Party, the Communist Party, have never been a prostitute or a drug user or a party to genocide.

3. I paid a LOT of money to get my American citizenship. And even after 16 years I still had to get an FBI background check, fill out numerous forms, travel 5 hours to the nearest office to be interviewed in person, prove that I could adequately speak, read and write English, and pass a civics test.

4. Illegals sneak across the border, steal identities, work illegally, don't pay taxes, sponge off our safety net. Most are unskilled, cannot speak the language and have little money. We know NOTHING about their health, their criminal background or their moral character.

Now ask me again how I feel about all of this.
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Old 01-28-2013, 05:19 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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What are we doing now?
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Old 01-28-2013, 05:22 PM
 
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Ehat is really ironic are champagne socialists love having the US flooded with illegals and immigrants in general, yet that influx will attack the base of the Democratic Party, the working class and the poor. Its their wages that will be seriously diluted and the union power destroyed. Talk about the ultimate irony
good post,

too right, it's always the sheep, middle class bourgeoisie that dig their own pits.

just short sighted pompous liberals wanting to grease their own palms at the expense of the country
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Old 01-28-2013, 05:26 PM
 
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immigrants should only be allowed in if they bring at least $80,000, which they must spend.

otherwise, what do they contribute?

(an exception may be made for those of high skills)
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Old 01-28-2013, 07:40 PM
 
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I immigrated here legally from Canada, have been here for 16 years and about six months ago finally became an American citizen.

Some random thoughts on this issue:

1. Legal immigrants have to pay a LOT of money to get here. And the process takes YEARS.

2. They have to provide extensive background information to the feds re: their places of residence, their education, their professional background. They have to be able to prove that they have enough money (either at their immediate disposal or that they can earn by working) so as to not be a burden on the social safety net of the United States. They have to provide a detailed accounting of all of their medical records and if they have not be innoculated against certain diseases they are required to get them. They are fingerprinted by the FBI and a criminal background check is conducted on them. They have to have a physical (including an AIDS test). They are interviewed repeatedly and have to swear (in writing and in person) that they have never been a member of the Nazi Party, the Communist Party, have never been a prostitute or a drug user or a party to genocide.

3. I paid a LOT of money to get my American citizenship. And even after 16 years I still had to get an FBI background check, fill out numerous forms, travel 5 hours to the nearest office to be interviewed in person, prove that I could adequately speak, read and write English, and pass a civics test.

4. Illegals sneak across the border, steal identities, work illegally, don't pay taxes, sponge off our safety net. Most are unskilled, cannot speak the language and have little money. We know NOTHING about their health, their criminal background or their moral character.

Now ask me again how I feel about all of this.
Agreed and too those Mexicans who came here LEGALLY feel the same way as you.
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Old 05-03-2019, 01:32 AM
 
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Default The underlying argument is flawed

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(Mods I figured because this article deals with immigration's effect on the economy it would be ok to post in Politics.)

An interesting post from Slate Moneybox's Yglesias. New Progressive zeitgeist?

[URL="http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2013/01/25/what_would_happen_if_we_let_all_the_immigrants_in. html"]What Would Happen If We Let All The Immigrants In[/URL]
"All those places have their share of problems (and so do we) but none of them are exactly post-apocalyptic hellscapes. I've never been to Japan, but the other countries are all quite pleasant. German cuisine would benefit from more immigrants."

There is such a difference between growing up in a culture that promotes families living together for longer than 18 years and one being forced into that. you can't compare the pros or turnout based on a country that has always been that way.
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