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what exactly is marxist? the content of his opinion or his ability to express it?
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It was to assure that a future president would be born with sole allegiance to the United States.
"It is an established maxim that birth is a criterion of allegiance. Birth, however, derives its force sometimes from place, and sometimes from parentage; but in general place is the most certain criterion; it is what applies in the United States; it will, therefore, be unnecessary to examine any other."
.... in case said person was born to foreign subjects that could disrupt his singular loyalty to America.
"Therefore every person born within the United States, its territories or districts, whether the parents are citizens or aliens, is a natural born citizen in the sense of the Constitution, and entitled to all the rights and privileges appertaining to that capacity."
William Rawle, A View of the Constitution of the United States of America, published in 1825
A simple 'born Citizen' on U.S. soil is not enough.
"Based upon the language of Article II, Section 1, Clause 4 and the guidance provided by Wong Kim Ark, we conclude that persons born within the borders of the United States are "natural born Citizens" for Article II, Section 1 purposes, regardless of the citizenship of their parents."
For people to disregard the framers original intent as well as the Constitution in today's times, and to disregard that a president not be a natural born Citizen ......
nobody is disregarding the NBC clause. the "2 US citizen parent" theory has been presented in court multiple times now........ and lost every single time.
Yea well the Congress, in joint session, also certified Nixon's election by the Electoral College without objection. And we all saw what happened to 'Tricky Dick' in the end didn't we?
And? How does this negate anything Wendell said? He is 100% right. I suggest you study the Constitution!
Being elected President by the Electoral College under the Constitution is not an impeachable offense. His birth certificate, college records and Social Security number are not an issue. Get over it.
Not only was it non-impeachable offense, Nixon's election by Electoral College was exactly the way the founding fathers wanted it to work.
Last edited by Magritte25; 01-28-2013 at 09:24 AM..
Reason: clarity
Then if he is not a natural born citizen let us impeach him NOW !!!! get the whole lot outta there NOW!!!!
First let me say that Obama is the rightful president and is qualified to be such. period.
Now in a theoretical world, if we had a president that we found was not qualified to be president then impeachment might not be the exact thing to do. Talk about a consititutional crisis!
Every single bit of legislation he signed would be technically invalid. it would be a serious national crisis if that were to ever happen then be found out.
what exactly is marxist? the content of his opinion or his ability to express it?
"It is an established maxim that birth is a criterion of allegiance. Birth, however, derives its force sometimes from place, and sometimes from parentage; but in general place is the most certain criterion; it is what applies in the United States; it will, therefore, be unnecessary to examine any other."
"Therefore every person born within the United States, its territories or districts, whether the parents are citizens or aliens, is a natural born citizen in the sense of the Constitution, and entitled to all the rights and privileges appertaining to that capacity."
William Rawle, A View of the Constitution of the United States of America, published in 1825
"Based upon the language of Article II, Section 1, Clause 4 and the guidance provided by Wong Kim Ark, we conclude that persons born within the borders of the United States are "natural born Citizens" for Article II, Section 1 purposes, regardless of the citizenship of their parents."
nobody is disregarding the NBC clause. the "2 US citizen parent" theory has been presented in court multiple times now........ and lost every single time.
I don't care what liberal judge ruled that it doesn't matter the citizenship of your parents. It absolutely does. A Mexican anchor baby born to illegal parents CAN NOT become POTUS. All of this fogging of the NBC clause is done on purpose by you Progressives Commies in order to subvert the Constitution and install a usurper, AKA Barack Obama. This right here is complete BS:
"Based upon the language of Article II, Section 1, Clause 4 and the guidance provided by Wong Kim Ark, we conclude that persons born within the borders of the United States are "natural born Citizens" for Article II, Section 1 purposes, regardless of the citizenship of their parents."
This here is closer to the truth if you dare read it:
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“Statutory provisions must be read as they are written, and this Court finds that the cases cited by Defendant are not controlling. When the Court construes a constitutional or statutory provision, the ‘first step . . . is to examine the plain statutory language.’ Morrison v. Claborn, 294 Ga. App. 508, 512 (2008). ‘Where the language of a statute is plain and unambiguous, judicial construction is not only unnecessary but forbidden. In the absence of words of limitation, words in a statute should be given their ordinary and everyday meaning.’ Six Flags Over Ga. v. Kull, 276 Ga. 210, 211 (2003) (citations and quotation marks omitted). Because there is no other ‘natural and reasonable construction’ of the statutory language, this Court is ‘not authorized either to read into or to read out that which would add to or change its meaning.‘ Blum v. Schrader, 281 Ga. 238, 240 (2006) (quotation marks omitted).” Order On Motion To Dismiss, Deputy Chief Judge Malihi, Jan. 3, 2012, pg. 3. (Emphasis added.)
Therefore, the term “natural born” must be considered as requiring something more than simple birth in the country. And Judge Malihi states, quite clearly, in his ruling above, that the Court “is not authorized to read into or to read out that which would add to or change its meaning.” The rule is the same for election statutes in Georgia as it is for the Constitution of the United States.
The rule of statutory construction, with regard to the Constitution, was best stated by Chief Justice Marshall in Marbury v. Madison, 5 U.S. 137 (1803): “It cannot be presumed that any clause in the constitution is intended to be without effect; and therefore such construction is inadmissible, unless the words require it.” Id. 174. (Emphasis added.)
If the 14th Amendment was held to declare that all persons born in the country, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, were natural-born citizens, then the “natural born Citizen” clause would be rendered inoperative. It would be superfluous. And its specific provision would, therefore, be governed by the general provision of the 14th Amendment. The United States Supreme Court has determined that it is inadmissible to even make that argument.
Any genuine construction of the “natural born Citizen” clause must begin from the starting point that it requires something more than citizenship by virtue of being born on U.S. soil. Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. 162 (1874), tells you exactly what that something is; citizen parents.
It was truly Marxist..............and it already is due to this type of Marxist mentality.
c'mon Marxie Marx, point out specifically what this man said that follows the writings of Karl Marx.
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