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Old 01-29-2013, 11:45 AM
 
Location: Eugenius
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Why do they need it? To put you in a FEMA camp, of course. Isn't that what you wanted to hear?
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Old 01-29-2013, 11:45 AM
 
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I have read the contract. The statement:

"DHS and its components have a requirement for a 5.56x45mm NATO, select-fire firearm suitable for personal defense use in close quarters and/or when maximum concealment is required."

does NOT mean that they are requiring concealable assault rifles. In that statement, "concealment" refers to the state of the person using the gun, not a specification requirement of the gun.


And if you have questions, why not call the guy who placed this order and ask him? His name, phone number, and email are right there on page one:

Troy Teachey
troy.teachey@dhc.gov
(202) 732-2592
I just sent the man an email asking him some questions. I know I won't get a response, but I'm trying...
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Old 01-29-2013, 11:47 AM
 
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Refer to George Owells '1984'.
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Old 01-29-2013, 11:47 AM
 
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Why do they need it? To put you in a FEMA camp, of course. Isn't that what you wanted to hear?
Amongst other things as well.... Do you care to explain why they need it? Who are they "defending" themselves against? The last time I checked, we weren't under any threat of the USA being invaded where we will need low level ICE or DHS agents to fight them off with a lightweight concealable Personal Defense Weapon.
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Old 01-29-2013, 11:49 AM
 
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It does sound like they are looking for something that can be used either in close quarters, or from a concelead position (sniper style)
Thanks. It isn't the clearest sentence I've ever read, but that's what it says. It certainly doesn't seem to be placing a concealment specification requirement on the rifle. I mean, there are pages describing the specification requirements for the rifle - wouldn't it make more sense to include that requirement there rather than in this sentence about usage.
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Old 01-29-2013, 11:50 AM
 
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I just sent the man an email asking him some questions. I know I won't get a response, but I'm trying...
Email is just a way to avoid people. Call him.
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Old 01-29-2013, 11:53 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Thanks. It isn't the clearest sentence I've ever read, but that's what it says. It certainly doesn't seem to be placing a concealment specification requirement on the rifle. I mean, there are pages describing the specification requirements for the rifle - wouldn't it make more sense to include that requirement there rather than in this sentence about usage.
Right. You don't buy a rifle if you are in the market for a conceleable firearm. You would look for pistols and sub-machine guns. There are some very effective sub-machine guns out there.
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Old 01-29-2013, 11:54 AM
 
Location: Eugenius
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Amongst other things as well.... Do you care to explain why they need it? Who are they "defending" themselves against? The last time I checked, we weren't under any threat of the USA being invaded where we will need low level ICE or DHS agents to fight them off with a lightweight concealable Personal Defense Weapon.
With record numbers of civilians arming themselves for the new civil war or the next apocalypse, wouldn't it be wise for a gov't agency to start arming themselves as well?
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Old 01-29-2013, 11:55 AM
 
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Do you care to explain why they need it? Who are they "defending" themselves against? The last time I checked, we weren't under any threat of the USA being invaded where we will need low level ICE or DHS agents to fight them off with a lightweight concealable Personal Defense Weapon.
You are basically asking why we need Coast Guard, Border Patrol, ICE etc other law enforcement agencies, and it amazes me that people have to ask why we need them.
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Old 01-29-2013, 12:13 PM
 
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You are basically asking why we need Coast Guard, Border Patrol, ICE etc other law enforcement agencies, and it amazes me that people have to ask why we need them.
Clearly the only reason they need them is to fire on American citizens.
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