A second GOP? (Congress, wage, global warming, drugs)

[biggunsmallbrains]

A very good article by David Brooks today that speaks about the major issues facing todays repulican party.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/29/op...ml?ref=opinion

An excerpt from it:
"As Bill Kristol pointed out at the National Review event, the G.O.P. fiercely opposed the Dodd-Frank financial regulation law but never offered an alternative. The party opposed Obamacare but never offered a replacement. John Podhoretz of Commentary added that as soon as Republicans start talking about what kind of regulations and programs government should promote, they get accused by colleagues of being Big Government conservatives."

It's hard for the GOP to be the party of "government is always evil" and then ask people to elect you to run it.

And to echo a quote from a commentator:
"On so many issues the modern Republican party is silent at best, at worst actively destructive. I would be happy to listen to conservative ideas about solving things like global warming, wage regression, financial reform, the medical crisis, etc., but there simply aren't any there."

[LAWS]

Originally Posted by biggunsmallbrains

A very good article by David Brooks today that speaks about the major issues facing todays repulican party.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/29/op...ml?ref=opinion

An excerpt from it:
"As Bill Kristol pointed out at the National Review event, the G.O.P. fiercely opposed the Dodd-Frank financial regulation law but never offered an alternative. The party opposed Obamacare but never offered a replacement. John Podhoretz of Commentary added that as soon as Republicans start talking about what kind of regulations and programs government should promote, they get accused by colleagues of being Big Government conservatives."

It's hard for the GOP to be the party of "government is always evil" and then ask people to elect you to run it.

And to echo a quote from a commentator:
"On so many issues the modern Republican party is silent at best, at worst actively destructive. I would be happy to listen to conservative ideas about solving things like global warming, wage regression, financial reform, the medical crisis, etc., but there simply aren't any there."

1)Global Warming
bomb china and india and all their polluting factories
2) Wage Regression
Bomb china and india and all their US job stealing factories
3) Financial Reform
Bomb china and india, no need to worry about foreign debts
4) the Medical crisis
bomb china and india, no more subsidizing drugs for the rest of the world

Pretty harsh, but it'll deliver results and would probably fit GOP ideology if they can think up a false terror threat.

[Willsson]

Originally Posted by LAWS

1)Global Warming
bomb china and india and all their polluting factories
2) Wage Regression
Bomb china and india and all their US job stealing factories
3) Financial Reform
Bomb china and india, no need to worry about foreign debts
4) the Medical crisis
bomb china and india, no more subsidizing drugs for the rest of the world

Pretty harsh, but it'll deliver results and would probably fit GOP ideology if they can think up a false terror threat.

GOP doesn't need to think up a terror threat... all it really needs is for the Dems to cozy with France.

Check your news feed...

[banjomike]

A second GOP?
How can that happen? While it is true the GOP has offered next to nothing that appeals to others outside of the party's base, the Republican party remains the only national party of conservatives that has the numbers, the organization, and the finances to mount an effective opposition to the Democratic party.

There are conservative and liberal alternatives to both major parties, but so far, none has the appeal to lure the faithful members of both away. Both of the major parties have their moderates, and the moderates and their less committed members are the majority in both.

The only difference between the majors is the Republicans' moderate base is aging and shrinking due to divisions within their party, and the Democratic party's moderate base is younger, growing and is not divided.

Neither party requires dues. Aligning one's self with any political party is purely voluntary, and costs nothing. Voting costs us nothing as individuals. One is not required to vote, and most of us do not vote at all.

Both parties are essentially marketing organizations that offer the least tangible products of all- philosophy and beliefs. These also cost nothing, but are very powerful, as they rule our lives.

Both parties are full of members who have agendas to further, for their own gain, or for their own fervent beliefs. In a democracy, this is the natural and inevitable state of our system, which is designed to favor only 2 parties.

While it is possible to establish a political party, to attract enough popularity among the electorate has proven to be impossible since the turn of the 20th century. Alternative parties have won elections in many states, but all have failed to win the Presidency since the 1800's. 112 years have proven this, and it's obvious that any alternative party becoming large enough to be a second Republican party is, practically speaking, impossible.

Only time will solve the crisis within the Republican party. It may have to resign itself to being a minority for a long time; it fell into similar disarray in the 1930's, and was a minority for the next 40 years, even though it was able to elect Presidents. The Democrats fell into disarray in the 1970's, and gradually become a Congressional minority, and it, too, elected Presidents.

Neither can stay in majority perpetually or forever. This is the way our government was designed to be, and the design will prevail as long as we don't write a new constitution. Since we are the oldest surviving democracy in history, and the only one that has never re-written our first constitution, it is very doubtful any 3rd party will arise and replace either one of our majors.