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Old 01-30-2013, 09:15 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Out of thin air? How do they get the means to pay for their demands?
It is cyclical and complicated. Give me one example of a company that manufactures a product for which there is no demand.
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Old 01-30-2013, 09:15 AM
 
Location: southern california
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the government does not create jobs the government created debt and dependency. 45% of americans work the rest wait to be fed.
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Old 01-30-2013, 09:17 AM
 
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the government does not create jobs the government created debt and dependency. 45% of americans work the rest wait to be fed.
Yes, it does. How about those military bases in towns in the South? Some of those towns were backwater towns until the government came in, put soldiers and officers there, and they were paid money and people in that town decided to take advantage of it. Of course, we know that being a soldier and officer isn't a real job
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Old 01-30-2013, 09:18 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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...someone else innovated and started a business, and employed people to run their business since one owner or manager can't do the work of 10+ employees, and those employees go on and spur job creation because they have money to spend, and some enterprising individual decides he wants their money, and creates a business that hires even more workers that get paid. See the picture? Relying on rich people only to run an economy would take us back to the feudal age where the economy was very basic
And it all starts with what? The innovators.

Exactly as stated in The Millionaire Next Door. The vast majority of the rich are self-employed innovators. Just a snapshot:
Who Got Rich This Week: The Co-Founder Of A Newly Public Tech Company, A Self-Employed Gold Prospector And More
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Old 01-30-2013, 09:20 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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And it all starts with what? The innovators.

Exactly as stated in The Millionaire Next Door. The vast majority of the rich are self-employed innovators. Just a snapshot:
Who Got Rich This Week: The Co-Founder Of A Newly Public Tech Company, A Self-Employed Gold Prospector And More
Does "supply" or "demand" create public service jobs such as medical personal, garbage collectors, plumbers, electricians, teachers, policemen, security guards with guns in our schools, etc......?
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Old 01-30-2013, 09:20 AM
 
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And it all starts with what? The innovators.

Exactly as stated in The Millionaire Next Door. The vast majority of the rich are self-employed innovators. Just a snapshot:
Who Got Rich This Week: The Co-Founder Of A Newly Public Tech Company, A Self-Employed Gold Prospector And More
It still doesn't negate my point. If we follow your logic, and everyone became a "job creator" we'd have no economy. You can't run an economy when most of your people are business owners, either. Somebody has to stay and run that business. Demand creates jobs, not supply. You are basically saying supply creates jobs.
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Old 01-30-2013, 09:23 AM
 
Location: NH
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How does one create a job? umm..I think im am going to create a job today for...

I dont undserstand how one should assume the govt should create a job for them. Its like the govt telling me I need to make up 10 new positions at my business that I really dont need just because people need jobs...no thanks.

If there arent enough jobs for the amount of people we have then perhaps there are too many people...but we arent overpopulated..nope, no way...
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Old 01-30-2013, 09:24 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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Wait a minute! Rich people don't create jobs? But I've been assured by thousands of teabaggers in adult diapers, driving rascal scooters, that rich people are job creators! Were they misleading me?
Yep we all are getting jobs from the homeless.
when there was no demand for the i phone people made the phone hoping top sell it.
When there was no demand for the automobile Henry Ford made it.
When there was no demand for solar panels ABM let Sondra make it and they failed
When there is no demand people are still making products some products create demand some fail.
Public was not demanding the i phone because the public had no clue as to what it was.
They made it and demand was created
Same silly question which comes first the chicken or egg
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Old 01-30-2013, 09:24 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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This is a joke, right?
No, it's not. Demand is worthless without supply. Supply sometimes falls on its face, and rightly so; someone greatly exaggerated the value of their product/service.

Demand means nothing if there is nothing created to meet the demand. I can demand a flying pony all I want. Doesn't mean it will ever exist.
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Old 01-30-2013, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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It still doesn't negate my point. If we follow your logic, and everyone became a "job creator" we'd have no economy. You can't run an economy when most of your people are business owners, either. Somebody has to stay and run that business. Demand creates jobs, not supply. You are basically saying supply creates jobs.
Exactly! Supply is in response to a demand. That is why GM was hurting. Very few could afford to buy those 30K cars.
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