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Old 02-01-2013, 06:20 PM
 
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So now all of the sudden the conservatives who are for everyone "pulling their own weight" want to - *gasp* - make the healthy people pay for them? I didn't know conservatives were in support of socialism.
^^This.

What happened to conservatives screaming about personal responsibility? Smokers are the new freeloaders living off the system that the rest of us pay for, right conservatives?
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Old 02-01-2013, 06:28 PM
 
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Nope. Wrong again. As a conservative I want everyone to pay for THEMSELVES. I don't want to be forced to pay for you, your children, or anyone else. And I don't want you forced to pay for me, my children, or anyone else.
If that's true, then why on earth would conservatives be falsely crying "death panels!" when in fact, under Obamacare smokers will have to pay up and take responsibilty for their own higher health costs???
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Old 02-01-2013, 06:44 PM
 
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If that's true, then why on earth would conservatives be falsely crying "death panels!" when in fact, under Obamacare smokers will have to pay up and take responsibilty for their own higher health costs???
Obama is a smoker so he will pay more too!
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Old 02-01-2013, 06:56 PM
 
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Obama is a smoker so he will pay more too!
He quit a few years ago.
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Old 02-01-2013, 07:20 PM
 
Location: Dublin, CA
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If that's true, then why on earth would conservatives be falsely crying "death panels!" when in fact, under Obamacare smokers will have to pay up and take responsibilty for their own higher health costs???
I don't speak for ALL conservatives. I speak for myself. "Death panels" are up in the air. Its a semantical game at this point. For, the fact is, conservative OR liberal, you, nor I, have no clue what is going to happen in the future.

The simple fact of the matter is: The system is going to limit health care, based upon alot of reasons. You can call it a death panel or prudent use of resources. That is up to you and your own personal opinion.

It doesn't change ANYTHING of my original post however. Simple fact is, YOU as a liberal, want it all and you want someone else to pay for it. THAT is the factual and true to this day. Me? I want it all and I am willing to pay for it MYSELF. I don't want one single dime from you or anyone else for my healthcare, life, or anything else.

THAT is the difference here.
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Old 02-01-2013, 07:31 PM
 
Location: Dublin, CA
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He quit a few years ago.
Yes and the check is in the mail.

How about you answer a simple question: Why should MY money go to pay for your healthcare?

No deflections, no BS. WHY should I go to work, everyday, so part of my paycheck can pay for YOUR and other people's healthcare?
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Old 02-01-2013, 07:32 PM
 
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We have death panels right now. They're called insurance companies.
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Old 02-01-2013, 07:50 PM
 
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How about you answer a simple question: Why should MY money go to pay for your healthcare?

No deflections, no BS. WHY should I go to work, everyday, so part of my paycheck can pay for YOUR and other people's healthcare?
Because part of my paycheck pays for yours and others' as well. That's how it works.
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Old 02-01-2013, 07:51 PM
 
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PLEASE tell me you are not trying to assign this mindset to liberals! LOL
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Old 02-01-2013, 07:52 PM
 
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I fully agree. Stupid people should be allowed to die and not burden others with the cost of being stupid. So eat and smoke yourself to death. Just don't make me pay for it through taxes and insurance premiums.
Yep. If you are stupid enough to drive a car or go rock climbing and you hurt yourself, you should die in pain. No meds of course unless you pay for them OOP.
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