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Old 02-03-2013, 11:56 AM
 
Location: Annandale, VA
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How many president's children have been murdered?

How many have ever attended a school that had a history of gun violence? Jimmy Carter's kid went to public school. I don't remember hearing anything about anyone going after her.
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Old 02-03-2013, 12:19 PM
 
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How many have ever attended a school that had a history of gun violence? Jimmy Carter's kid went to public school. I don't remember hearing anything about anyone going after her.
You don't think she went unescorted, do you?
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Old 02-03-2013, 12:24 PM
 
Location: Geneva, IL
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You don't think she went unescorted, do you?
Of course they do. The Obama family are the first Presidential family to ever use security dontcha know?

Ocala Star-Banner - Google News Archive Search

Like every other First Kid/s, Amy Carter had Secret Service agents assigned to her at school.
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Old 02-03-2013, 12:37 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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So no one has any comment on what LaPierre actually said, just the usual whining.
Not sure what you were hoping for.

You have one link that provides obviously slanted opinion on a discussion between two people that isn't really needed because anyone who is not brain dead could simply read the unedited transcript or watch the show and make up their own mind about what was said.

Capt. Mark Kelly, Wayne LaPierre on chances for compromise in gun control debate | Interviews | Fox News Sunday with Chris Wallace - Fox News

To support the opinion of LoGuirato, the article links to another opinion piece by a different individual who has been called out by both the left and right for ignoring facts.

Glenn Kessler's Shameless Lie - Clive Crook - The Atlantic

WaPo Fact Checker Goes Full-Orwell: Facts Earn Pinocchios to Protect Obama

On the issue of Kessler's integrity, I'm inclined to agree with both sides.

"Moreover, those Secret Service agents are there only to protect those children — and no one else at the school."

Sure, because mass murderers wouldn't pick another target just because the place crawls with highly trained and well-armed SS agents.


Since I don't outsource my thought process, the opinions of two GDBs who happen to agree with you doesn't sway me.
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Old 02-03-2013, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Steeler Nation
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Need more of this!

Armed Police Officer Stops School Shooting in Georgia - Katie Pavlich
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Old 02-03-2013, 12:50 PM
 
Location: Geneva, IL
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Not sure what you were hoping for.

You have one link that provides obviously slanted opinion on a discussion between two people that isn't really needed because anyone who is not brain dead could simply read the unedited transcript or watch the show and make up their own mind about what was said.

Capt. Mark Kelly, Wayne LaPierre on chances for compromise in gun control debate | Interviews | Fox News Sunday with Chris Wallace - Fox News

To support the opinion of LoGuirato, the article links to another opinion piece by a different individual who has been called out by both the left and right for ignoring facts.

Glenn Kessler's Shameless Lie - Clive Crook - The Atlantic

WaPo Fact Checker Goes Full-Orwell: Facts Earn Pinocchios to Protect Obama

On the issue of Kessler's integrity, I'm inclined to agree with both sides.

"Moreover, those Secret Service agents are there only to protect those children — and no one else at the school."

Sure, because mass murderers wouldn't pick another target just because the place crawls with highly trained and well-armed SS agents.


Since I don't outsource my thought process, the opinions of two GDBs who happen to agree with you doesn't sway me.
Say what? Your post makes no sense.

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Old 02-03-2013, 01:01 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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LaPierre needs to go away. He's not helping. He's changed his stance (on the record) so many times even the Libs have lost count. The best way to refute any stance he takes is simply to go back and find where he has taken the exact opposite stance in the past and use his own testimony against him.

Things NEED to change. If gun owners want to protect their right to own guns, they HAVE to take steps to keep guns out of the hands of people who can't safely handle them. This means universal background checks, and it means removing state and federal hurdles which keeps the names of some mentally incompetent and dangerous individuals off the list.
I heard that there will be a Superbowl ad tonight , La Pierre vs. La Pierre.
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Old 02-03-2013, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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In Chicago they kill one another and I don't see any protection there as the innocents are gunned down. Of course the culture of music has glorified guns, mistreating women, and disrespect of authority. And I don't see Obama speaking against it. Obama could have done so much more.
Most who are gunned down are affiliated with gangs, not innocents. It's gang on gang violence.
This does not mean that some innocents are not killed because they are in the wrong place at the wrong time by drive bye shooters.

The media culture that promotes violence, mistreating women and disrespect of authority is a first amendment thing.

Geraldo Rivera, of all people, probably has one of the better ideas to allow Police more freedom to search and frisk in cities where gun violence is > X, similar to what's been done in NYC for a long, long time. Why Chicago has not embraced something similar is beyond me.
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Old 02-03-2013, 01:25 PM
 
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It becomes increasingly clear, in fact has been clear for some time, that Wayne LaPierre is a doddering old fool who shouldn't be left in charge of a retirement home recreation center towel cupboard, much less the most powerful and insidious political lobby organization in the country.
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Old 02-03-2013, 01:32 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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you need to be focusing on the drug (SSRI). We need a change in how these meds are handled, and in the monitoring of people who are on them. Maybe they need to be institutionalized and in a controlled environment where they can't get their hands on a gun, knife, or axe. I don't know the exact answer, but it needs to be studied.
Tens of millions of people are prescribed SSRI medications throughout the world and most of them do not engage in mass shootings. Most mass shooters are not on SSRIs contrary to the speculations of the conspiracy media.

Most shooters, post the Reagan/Hinkley era have been unable to use insanity as a defense.

Institutionalization of mentally ill is rare and usually only occurs following extreme violence, the only reasonably accurate prediction of future violence. This is consistent throughout the world.
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