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Old 10-16-2014, 06:54 PM
 
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woodrow wison was evil
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Old 10-16-2014, 07:03 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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Wilson was a NeoCon.
You need to define 'neocon.' I've asked many who used the term to define it, but have yet to encounter one who could. I asked one guy to define 'neocon' and his reply was that "It's the people you see on fox news." O-kay. Not a whole lot of precision there.

Wilson has been labeled as a progressive by most historians. I have looked around, and didn't find an instance where he labeled himself that, but certainly he was allied politically with the progressive movement of the time.
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Old 10-16-2014, 07:30 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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Wilson was a NeoCon.
He was certainly a big government guy, but he didn't have the innate love for war and the destruction of lives that today's neoconservatives have, or that TR had. He didn't have the spine to stand up to the warmongers--a lot like Obama, actually.

All in all, though, he was a pretty bad president.
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Old 10-16-2014, 07:34 PM
 
Location: Annandale, VA
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Wilson was the worst "progressive" POS this country ever elected.
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Old 10-16-2014, 07:42 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Wilson was a NeoCon.


There was nothing Con about Wilson.

They named the Progressive Era after him.
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Old 10-16-2014, 07:45 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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There was nothing Con about Wilson.

They named the Progressive Era after him.
His name was Thomas Woodrow Progressive?
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Old 10-16-2014, 08:11 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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His name was Thomas Woodrow Progressive?

Research Wilsonian....
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Old 10-16-2014, 08:14 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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Research Wilsonian....
Wilson's party was the Democratic Party.

Theo. Roosevelt's party was the Progressive Party.

In a very broad sense, both of them can be identified with early-20th Century progressivism. But that is far from saying progressivism was named after Wilson.
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Old 10-16-2014, 08:26 PM
 
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The Wilsonian Era, was the kick off off destroying the Constitution and stacking the Supreme Courts.
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Old 10-16-2014, 08:35 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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Wilson's party was the Democratic Party.

Theo. Roosevelt's party was the Progressive Party.

In a very broad sense, both of them can be identified with early-20th Century progressivism. But that is far from saying progressivism was named after Wilson.
You're getting into semantics. Wilson was joined at the hip with the progressive movement.
http://www.amazon.com/Woodrow-Libera.../dp/0742515176

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Woodrow Wilson was consistently a central figure in the development of Progressivism and so of the Liberalism that dominated twentieth-century American public policy and political life.
Like any broad-based political movement progressivism had a variety of splinter groups. There is still a Conservative Party in NY state, which traces to the Buckley clan. If a Ted Cruz does not belong to the Conservative Party does that make him not a conservative?
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