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Old 02-05-2013, 08:41 AM
 
Location: WY
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Originally Posted by Saritaschihuahua View Post
I want to thank you. You're the only gun lover that had the b____s, toughness, and bravery to respond to the question. The rest were quivering in their Barney the Dinosaur boots.

However, your response was exactly as I suspected it would be. If you want a gun to be useful to you in a perp situation, you have to do these things:

(1) You have to have a gun already in your hand in advance of dangerous situations happening, or the gun is useless to you. Walking gingerly over to get a gun once a situation is taking place, is not possible;

(2) Unless you wish to Superglue a gun to your hand, you have to have the gun out, close to your hand, or on your person at all times;

(3) In order to be able to know when to reach for the gun, the gun user has to be sort of a psychic as to future dangerous events. To be successful in this, people with guns should live in a constant state of suspicion of everyone, as success using a gun to avoid crime requires a somewhat psychic attempt at predicting danger, to know when to grab the gun. I'm sure everyone who uses a gun uses different prediction criteria. You use a "hairs on my neck stand up" and the "I don't like the looks of some idiot" rules for yourself, to gauge when you should grab your gun. I'm sure differ with each human being, since these things are purely subjective. To successfully avoid crime by using a gun, requires strong ability in being able to predict the future.

Since life isn't a movie in which the gun-loving superhero is psychic and practically superhuman in grabbing his and aiming, gun use success relies upon excellent prediction of future events, and since prediction is not the forte of human beings, I'd say the success of guns in helping folks avoid situations has nothing to do with the gun, and everything to do with psychic abilities.

I appreciate your honesty.

I'd also like to add that aiming at a target is easy-peasy at the target range, but the target range is not real life. In real life (and I'm sure there might be some stats on this), the likelihood of being able to aim properly because of the unpredictability of situations, the stress, and a million things that have to be kept in mind when doing so (such as avoiding hitting innocent people and people distracting due to screaming and so on), must drop the aiming accuracy to rock bottom.
Re: #1. You have no idea what you are talking about. There are people who are ALWAYS - always - armed. They don't have to walk gingerly to some place to get their gun. It never leaves their body unless they're in bed, and then it sits right beside the bed. You might call those people paranoid. Unless you have lived the lives that some have led.

The rest of your post is total crap as usual, so not worth responding to.

 
Old 02-05-2013, 09:02 AM
 
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This clearly explains the many military combat veterans who own guns. They're clearly cowards. The police in the U.S. must also be cowards unlike their U.K. counterparts.
If you have a problem with the objective reality that gun nuts are cowards, I don't care.
 
Old 02-05-2013, 09:03 AM
 
Location: Jewel Lake (Sagle) Idaho
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Are gun owners really tougher, braver, and more masculine than non-gun owners?


Yep. Smarter and better looking too.
 
Old 02-05-2013, 09:21 AM
 
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Originally Posted by juneaubound View Post
Re: #1. You have no idea what you are talking about. There are people who are ALWAYS - always - armed. They don't have to walk gingerly to some place to get their gun. It never leaves their body unless they're in bed, and then it sits right beside the bed. You might call those people paranoid. Unless you have lived the lives that some have led.

The rest of your post is total crap as usual, so not worth responding to.
Of course you know what I'm talking about. I'm talking about how quickly you can draw your gun once your situation is upon you, and unless you're an actor in a movie, the likelihood that you'll be able to save yourself is pretty damned dismal. Unless, of course, you superglue the gun to your hand and sleep with your eyes open. Unlikely scenario.
 
Old 02-05-2013, 09:29 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Saritaschihuahua View Post
I think men that carry a gun are not only less masculine, but they lack self-confidence, and they think a gun will give them the self-confidence they lack.

I think people who baselessly think, cast aspersions, and make blanket generalizations are lazy thinkers.

I do not carry.
 
Old 02-05-2013, 09:31 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Saritaschihuahua View Post
I want to thank you. You're the only gun lover that had the b____s, toughness, and bravery to respond to the question. The rest were quivering in their Barney the Dinosaur boots.

However, your response was exactly as I suspected it would be. If you want a gun to be useful to you in a perp situation, you have to do these things:

(1) You have to have a gun already in your hand in advance of dangerous situations happening, or the gun is useless to you. Walking gingerly over to get a gun once a situation is taking place, is not possible;

(2) Unless you wish to Superglue a gun to your hand, you have to have the gun out, close to your hand, or on your person at all times;

(3) In order to be able to know when to reach for the gun, the gun user has to be sort of a psychic as to future dangerous events. To be successful in this, people with guns should live in a constant state of suspicion of everyone, as success using a gun to avoid crime requires a somewhat psychic attempt at predicting danger, to know when to grab the gun. I'm sure everyone who uses a gun uses different prediction criteria. You use a "hairs on my neck stand up" and the "I don't like the looks of some idiot" rules for yourself, to gauge when you should grab your gun. I'm sure differ with each human being, since these things are purely subjective. To successfully avoid crime by using a gun, requires strong ability in being able to predict the future.

Since life isn't a movie in which the gun-loving superhero is psychic and practically superhuman in grabbing his and aiming, gun use success relies upon excellent prediction of future events, and since prediction is not the forte of human beings, I'd say the success of guns in helping folks avoid situations has nothing to do with the gun, and everything to do with psychic abilities.

I appreciate your honesty.

I'd also like to add that aiming at a target is easy-peasy at the target range, but the target range is not real life. In real life (and I'm sure there might be some stats on this), the likelihood of being able to aim properly because of the unpredictability of situations, the stress, and a million things that have to be kept in mind when doing so (such as avoiding hitting innocent people and people distracting due to screaming and so on), must drop the aiming accuracy to rock bottom.
if the above post even came close to truthful and a reflection of reality, the police would walk around with real assault weapons at the ready...

reality is, the PoPo walk around with their guns holsterd, snapped down and safty on.

geez.
 
Old 02-05-2013, 09:36 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Saritaschihuahua View Post
Of course you know what I'm talking about. I'm talking about how quickly you can draw your gun once your situation is upon you, and unless you're an actor in a movie, the likelihood that you'll be able to save yourself is pretty damned dismal. Unless, of course, you superglue the gun to your hand and sleep with your eyes open. Unlikely scenario.
Where do you come up with the crap you post.....everything is always "gun is already to your head"

I'm sure that is how all robberis/rape work....with tht logic, why not just walk around with a "rape me" sign on...
 
Old 02-05-2013, 09:36 AM
 
Location: Jewel Lake (Sagle) Idaho
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Originally Posted by Ferd View Post
if the above post even came close to truthful and a reflection of reality, the police would walk around with real assault weapons at the ready...

reality is, the PoPo walk around with their guns holsterd, snapped down and safty on.

geez.
Don't sweat it. Saritaschihuahua lives in her own little world, terrified of inanimate objects, but convinced that there are no such things as bad people.
 
Old 02-05-2013, 09:57 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Toyman at Jewel Lake View Post
Don't sweat it. Saritaschihuahua lives in her own little world, terrified of inanimate objects, but convinced that there are no such things as bad people.
And don't forget all rapes and robberies start with the gun already to your head....
 
Old 02-05-2013, 10:03 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Toyman at Jewel Lake View Post
Don't sweat it. Saritaschihuahua lives in her own little world, terrified of inanimate objects, but convinced that there are no such things as bad people.
Hey, I'm not the one with a gun taped to my hand. You are.
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