And Another GOP Governor Falls in line...like you knew he would

[desertdetroiter]

Originally Posted by kidkaos2

We don't live in fantasyland. Obamacare is awful but now it is the law of the land. Governors have to do what is in the best interests of their states given the situation as it stands. So I really believe he had figured it out and really believe he wasn't in favor of it right from the beginning. The two aren't mutually exclusive. You can be against a law but then resign yourself to following it once it passes

Sure. Happens all the time.

Still though, i don't believe him. But if there is a GOP governor that i would believe, it would be Kasich. Still though, i just find it too hard to believe that he was ever against Obamacare.

And Obamacare isn't awful.

Originally Posted by jwm1964

I hope they vote his ass out of office.
Nobody is standing up for the middle class.
Just bend over while your politicians give it to you up the ass.

Well, if it's going up my arse, it's going up yours too whether you bend over or not.

So really, there's no difference between you and I....but you'd love to think there is.

As for whether or not they vote him out of office, that's not my business. I'm not from Ohio. They can make him King for all i care.

[jwm1964]

Originally Posted by desertdetroiter

Sure. Happens all the time.

Still though, i don't believe him. But if there is a GOP governor that i would believe, it would be Kasich. Still though, i just find it too hard to believe that he was ever against Obamacare.

And Obamacare isn't awful.



Well, if it's going up my arse, it's going up yours too whether you bend over or not.

So really, there's no difference between you and I....but you'd love to think there is.

As for whether or not they vote him out of office, that's not my business. I'm not from Ohio. They can make him King for all i care.

True about both getting screwed.
I disagree about not being our business.
Governors had the potential to be our line of defense against federal creep.

[squarian]

Originally Posted by jwm1964

Governors had the potential to be our line of defense against federal creep.

You are right to use the past tense.

[HappyTexan]

Originally Posted by southbel

Remember, the Federal government is only paying for the extension of Medicaid for the first two years. After that, the states get to pick up the bill. How will it save them money then?

Seems none are looking beyond the 2 years of 100% Fed funding for this.

Do people realize that we are expanding who is categorized as living in poverty to include those not at or below the poverty line ?

We've just expanded poverty to be those living at 133% of poverty.
Why not just change the poverty line figure and up it to $15K (1 person) and stop playing games with percentages here ?

At least that's being more honest and then the Fed doesn't have to dangle that carrot of 100% funding for 2 years.

Since Obamacare is going to pay for itself (I got bridges to sell in AZ ) this shouldn't be an issue about how to pay for all these new folks qualifying for medicaid.

[desertdetroiter]

Originally Posted by HappyTexan

Seems none are looking beyond the 2 years of 100% Fed funding for this.

Do people realize that we are expanding who is categorized as living in poverty to include those not at or below the poverty line ?

We've just expanded poverty to be those living at 133% of poverty.
Why not just change the poverty line figure and up it to $15K (1 person) and stop playing games with percentages here ?

At least that's being more honest and then the Fed doesn't have to dangle that carrot of 100% funding for 2 years.

Since Obamacare is going to pay for itself (I got bridges to sell in AZ ) this shouldn't be an issue about how to pay for all these new folks qualifying for medicaid.

Hey, hey, hey...we actually DO have some bridges here!!

[Nicholas van Rijn]

McDonnell in Virginia may be next. And Kasich has now given him some political cover.

McDonnell Under Pressure To Expand State Medicaid Program | TPMDC