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Old 02-04-2013, 10:22 PM
 
Location: Earth
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Those people are stumped because so many of their teachers could not read, write or spell properly--and they had decent jobs, with no appreciation for the importance of basic writing competence. We are into the second generation of people receiving diplomas without receiving the education that formerly accompanied diplomas.

This is not a knock on the many wonderful and excellent teachers we have; it is a slam, however, on the legions of incompetent ones. If you do not realize that we have both kinds, you aren't paying attention.
My mother reviewed our homework and worked with us daily on our lessons.

Legions of incompetent teachers? Really.
Certainly there are some, but legions?

Don't blame teachers.
Teachers present information, parents should be reinforcing that information.
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Old 02-04-2013, 10:32 PM
 
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[quote=chielgirl;28097784]My mother reviewed our homework and worked with us daily on our lessons.

Legions of incompetent teachers? Really.
Certainly there are some, but legions?

It's legiondary.
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Old 02-04-2013, 10:35 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, California
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I just took the link to that article to another forum, and it parsed like this:

blogs.hbr.org/cs/2012/07/i_wont_hire_people_who_use_poo.



Huh?

I don't get it. In any case, I just clicked my link and took me to the article.
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Old 02-04-2013, 10:36 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Then you do not know how to read with context. The meaning of those words come from context, not spelling.



OK, but there's and their's always mean different things.
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Old 02-04-2013, 10:41 PM
 
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No, they are not. You can tell the meaning of the words outside of their spelling. For example, do these sentences really confuse you?

Their is a ball over their.

I petted there dog.


Do those sentences really discombobulate you? While it is bad grammar, one can still extract the exact meaning out of those sentences.
Your examples make me cringe.

I pull resumes for grammatical and spelling errors. (One should have another person review their resume).
90% of jobs at my level, and the level I hire for, rely on communication skills.
If you don't use grammar and spelling rules, you don't get the job.
Your choice.

Pet peeves from Western PA: ain't got, yinz guys, I seen it.
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Old 02-04-2013, 10:48 PM
 
Location: 53179
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No, they are not. You can tell the meaning of the words outside of their spelling. For example, do these sentences really confuse you?

Their is a ball over their.

I petted there dog.


Do those sentences really discombobulate you? While it is bad grammar, one can still extract the exact meaning out of those sentences.
Sure, but it hurts my eyes looking at it. Why would you want to ban the word their, just because people can't learn how to write?
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Old 02-04-2013, 11:09 PM
 
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Sure, but it hurts my eyes looking at it. Why would you want to ban the word their, just because people can't learn how to write?
Who said anything banning words? I was just pointing out the strange brew that the English language breeds.

Language and communication is about context, not about spelling words in a diarrhea of language.

Instead of being obsessed by spelling, how about trying to learn how to read? I never championed banning a word, nor did I conflate spelling with communication.

It amazes me that someone with a stick up their ass with regards to spelling lacks basic reading comprehension skills.
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Old 02-04-2013, 11:11 PM
 
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OK, but there's and their's always mean different things.
Not without context. Context makes the word, not the spelling.
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Old 02-04-2013, 11:17 PM
 
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Your examples make me cringe.

I pull resumes for grammatical and spelling errors. (One should have another person review their resume).
90% of jobs at my level, and the level I hire for, rely on communication skills.
If you don't use grammar and spelling rules, you don't get the job.
Your choice.

Pet peeves from Western PA: ain't got, yinz guys, I seen it.
I could care less if my examples make you cringe or pull resumes. Did you not understand the meaning of the sentences? The spelling did not change the meaning of those sentences.

Plus, I could care less about you hiring me. I do not want a job at your company, but I excel at communication skills regardless of spelling mistakes due to the idiosyncratic nature of the English language.

Additionally, you do realize that most communication is conveyed through body language, not words on a paper? You should be fired for being such a defunct HR officer and not realizing this.

It is not the spelling of the words that matter in communication, but the context. Communication is always about the context. A human resource officer should know this.
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Old 02-04-2013, 11:21 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Why are people who lack basic English grammar surprised they can't find a job???

Have you noticed that the less a person is educated, the more entitled they feel?
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