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Old 02-05-2013, 11:36 AM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Who says?
The present administration has redefined what is going on with the Islamists and I don't think that war is one of the words that escaped that redefinition.
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Old 02-05-2013, 11:37 AM
 
Location: On the "Left Coast", somewhere in "the Land of Fruits & Nuts"
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Whodda thunk that conservatives would ever hate Democrats so much that they would stoop to becoming such anti-war, anti-CIA, pro-Al Qaeda peaceniks (or maybe even commies now ...LOL)?!
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Old 02-05-2013, 11:37 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Talking to the guy at Ft Hood does not make HIM guilty of shooting people.
Huh?

People are convicted of murder all the time who neither held the gun nor pulled the trigger.
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Old 02-05-2013, 11:37 AM
 
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Please... cite for me the part of the Constitution that protects enemy combattants from death at the hands of our armed forces. Better yet, show me the part of the Constitution that distinguishes enemy combatants who are citizens from those who are not.
The 5th and the 14th. It grants U.S. citizens the rights to due process. Just because we decided we wanted to call Timothy McVeigh a bad name like Domestic Terrorists would not have voided his due process rights.

Name calling does not trump the Constitution.
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Old 02-05-2013, 11:38 AM
 
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The present administration has redefined what is going on with the Islamists and I don't think that war is one of the words that escaped that redefinition.
Someone is driving with their high deems on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlBifX0H3yg
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Old 02-05-2013, 11:38 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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"First, the condition that an operational leader present an "imminent" threat of violent attack against the United States does not require the United States to have clear evidence that a specific attack on US persons and interest will take place in the immidiate future"

They are saying the don't even need any friggen evidence.
Uh... no. They are not.
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Old 02-05-2013, 11:39 AM
 
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Whodda thunk that conservatives would ever hate Democrats so much that they would stoop to becoming such anti-war, anti-CIA, pro-Al Qaeda peaceniks (or maybe even commies ...LOL)?!
It's the ACLU at the front of this fight to stop this.
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Old 02-05-2013, 11:41 AM
 
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In 1981, just days before his murder trial was to begin, Einhorn skipped bail and fled to Europe. Einhorn traveled in Europe for the next 17 years, along the way marrying a Swedish woman named Annika Flodin. Back in Pennsylvania, as Einhorn had already been arraigned, the state convicted him in absentia in 1993 for the murder of Maddux . Einhorn was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole.

Ira Einhorn - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Funny where you started you bolding of the text let's try this again:

Back in Pennsylvania, as Einhorn had already been arraigned, the state convicted him in absentia in 1993 for the murder of Maddux.

Additionally that trial was conducted in state court and the provisions of Pennsylvania allows for a request for retrial by a defendant if they are returned to the court's testimony.
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Old 02-05-2013, 11:46 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Huh?

People are convicted of murder all the time who neither held the gun nor pulled the trigger.
Ok, but this guy was not convicted. That is the point we are trying to get across.
Thanks for pointing out exactly what we are saying. He wasn't "convicted" of anything.
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Old 02-05-2013, 11:46 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Since you concur let me ask you this ?
They also murdered his 16 year old son a month later.
Killing enemy combatants is not murder.

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And you concur with that as well ?
Yes.

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And just why did they kill his son a month later ?
He wasn't the intended target. But he was traveling with Ibrahim al-Banna.

Al-Banna was (by the way) the Egyptian media chief for al-Qaeda’s Yemeni affiliate, and the brother of Fahd al-Quso, a senior al-Qaeda operative who was indicted in New York in the 2000 attack on the USS Cole.

They run in packs.

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I did find that the USG is being sued for not giving them their due process by US law.
Great. Let's see how that works out.
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