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Old 02-05-2013, 12:27 PM
 
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I support the killing of anybody who has taken up arms against my country and its people.
This poor guy that wrote the above is unable to stay on topic......LOL This simple concept of having some due process for US citizens before you kill them is too complex for him to handle.
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Old 02-05-2013, 12:27 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Oh... it wasn't "too bad" at all. The son had thrown in his lot with Al Qaeda. He knew what he was getting himself into, his own father was the cautionary tale to end all cautionary tales.

He made his choices. Choices have consequences.
I never read any stories that said that. Where did you get that from ? Link please.
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Old 02-05-2013, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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There is a clear difference between engaging a target in the midst of combat, and cold blodedly assasinating an American citizen.
Once again we are confronted with the false dichotomies of the right-wing.

No... there is not a "clear difference." There is a gradual continuum between two infantrymen shooting at each other in the heat of full battle and the strategic planning of operations back at general staff HQ, with innumerable intermediate situations in between.

At no point in that continuum does the citizenship status of the enemy matter one whit.
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Old 02-05-2013, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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This poor guy that wrote the above unable to stay on topic......LOL This simple concept of having some due process for US citizens before you kill them is too complex for him to handle.
If you believe anything about this issue is "simple" then you are probably not competent to participate in the discussion. I believe there is a whole "fashion and beauty" forum that might better suite your temperament.
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Old 02-05-2013, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I support the killing of anybody who has taken up arms against my country and its people.
Don't you think they oughta show some proof with evidence first ?
Or is a shoot to kill order coming from the President enough ?
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Old 02-05-2013, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Va. Beach
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What court would he be tried in? And how would we capture and get him to the US?

Obama ordered the shoot to kill for the Somalian pirates. I had no problem with that either. Neither do I have a problem with the killing of Osama or any other terrorists that were killed while GWB was president. We are at war folks!
The man was an AMERICAN CITIZEN. What the hell do you mean,
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What court would he be tried in?
How about a federal court?

Somalian pirates, are not american citizens, shoot em. Foreign terrorists, shoot to kill, An American Citizen HAS to be tried in court and found guilty before sentence is passed.

I know he was a terrorist, and YOU know he was a terrorist, but he was also an American Citizen, and at the very least deserved what our constitutional rights provided him, and one of the things are, the President of the United States, cannot decide as Judge Jury and Executioner.
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Old 02-05-2013, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Once again we are confronted with the false dichotomies of the right-wing.

No... there is not a "clear difference." There is a gradual continuum between two infantrymen shooting at each other in the heat of full battle and the strategic planning of operations back at general staff HQ, with innumerable intermediate situations in between.

At no point in that continuum does the citizenship status of the enemy matter one whit.
Apparently when you swore an oath to uphold the Constitution, you failed to first read it.

A citizen levying war against the United States has committed treason - and the constitution provides for due process to be completed before a citizen is convicted.

President Obama acted as indictor, jury, judge, and finally executioner.

He committed a high crime - murder.

He should be impeached, and removed from office.
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Old 02-05-2013, 12:38 PM
 
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If you believe anything about this issue is "simple" then you are probably not competent to participate in the discussion. I believe there is a whole "fashion and beauty" forum that might better suite your temperament.
Tough guys like you love to trade their civil liberties to feel safe. ...LOL

Scared of some two-bit Arab peasant, he's willing to let politicians break the law.

Mommy! Obama! Save me!....LOL
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Old 02-05-2013, 12:38 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Some folks need killing. Get over it.
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Old 02-05-2013, 12:39 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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