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Old 02-06-2013, 09:26 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Saving $2 billion to the government is like 20 cents to you and I. It won't make a bit of difference.
My thoughts exactly, but look at it this way: it is a start...regardless of how small.
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Old 02-06-2013, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Do you really think any of them get their paychecks via the mail? Heck, except for my small retirement check I don't get anything like that via the mail. SS checks do not come through the mail: in fact I don't know much that comes through the mail. I can't imagine anyone being bothered about Sat delivery being stopped? I can remember when we had 2 deliveries a day except Sat.. When the converted to one a day, nothing drastic happened did it?
It was a joke plus I was referring to their payola checks(money). Wasn't it Boehner that used to hand them out on the House floor ...

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Old 02-06-2013, 09:36 AM
 
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So you're a liberal in favor of massive urban consolidation of population and services? Got it.

LOL, I've been called a lot of things but liberal usually isn't one of them. FYI I live in a rural area, I expect that services won't be the same as if I lived in town. I know if the lights go out after a storm it might be days before they go on, I accept that and expect it.

I actually owned a delivery service and very large percentage of my customer base was in rural communities so I have a little bit of knowledge about what makes a delivery company profitable in these areas. Firstly I was able to obtain most of the customers in any given area, the USPS already has that. This allowed to me to provide better service and in some case the only service compared to my competitors. You can't make money in rural communities with a half a truck load of product, you can when it's full. By conditioning customers to the fact they may wait 1 day or 2 weeks I was able to provide service to everyone at a lower cost than competitor.

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They wouldn't even touch first class even if they could.
I disagree, the number one thing needed for profitable delivery is saturation of customers. You're going to make far more money delivering to every address on a street than you would to few houses scattered across many blocks.
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Old 02-06-2013, 09:45 AM
 
Location: Maryland about 20 miles NW of DC
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Sadly the USPS is still behind on the times. They are surviving on junk mail.

What is junk mail to you is some small business trying to survive and drum up some business. How are you going to pay for your e-mail and e-business if you don't have all those jobs these small businesses provide!
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Old 02-06-2013, 09:51 AM
 
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Am I the only one who thinks junk mail is useful?
There are plenty of good offers.
Not to mention occasionally I am alerted if a new store or restaurant opens up somewhere
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Old 02-06-2013, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Maryland about 20 miles NW of DC
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FedEx and UPS routinely use/pay the USPS to make deliveries in rural areas. The private sector cannot compete.
It also doesn't want to compete because delivery in low density rural areas loses money for the FedExes and UPSes just think of how much fuel they burn if you have to drive a mile or two to deliver a package.
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Old 02-06-2013, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Marquette, Michigan
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LOL, I've been called a lot of things but liberal usually isn't one of them. FYI I live in a rural area, I expect that services won't be the same as if I lived in town. I know if the lights go out after a storm it might be days before they go on, I accept that and expect it.

I actually owned a delivery service and very large percentage of my customer base was in rural communities so I have a little bit of knowledge about what makes a delivery company profitable in these areas. Firstly I was able to obtain most of the customers in any given area, the USPS already has that. This allowed to me to provide better service and in some case the only service compared to my competitors. You can't make money in rural communities with a half a truck load of product, you can when it's full. By conditioning customers to the fact they may wait 1 day or 2 weeks I was able to provide service to everyone at a lower cost than competitor.

I disagree, the number one thing needed for profitable delivery is saturation of customers. You're going to make far more money delivering to every address on a street than you would to few houses scattered across many blocks.
In many rural locations the USPS does not have delivery carriers, rather they only offer PO boxes and everyone must come into the to pick up there mail. That's very common. That level of service reduction should be enough. I'm also 100% fine with the elimination of Saturday delivery.

The USPS is not only a business, but also a service to us all. They can't pick and chose their customers. They operated profitibly, in the black year after year until 2006, when they went billions of dollars into debt overnight, with the stroke of a pen.

For all the challenges I'm sure you faced in your business, and for the ones I face in mine day in and day out, none compare to what the USPS has to put up with.
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Old 02-06-2013, 10:10 AM
 
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Beginnning in August, no Saturday mail delivery. This is estimated to save $2 billion annually.
This is pretty awful, since the U.S. Postal Service is the only reliable service I've found. Fedex and UPS suck so bad I can't even talk about it without getting p-o'd.
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Old 02-06-2013, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Maryland about 20 miles NW of DC
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The USPS needs to be allowed to streamiline their operations. For starters get rid of the rural PO's and limit service to those areas as any for profit company would.

While doing that becsue of the cuts to service the monopoly on first class mail needs to be lifted.

This is the kind of ignorance America doesn't need. Do we need to condemn 2/3 of the land area of this nation to isolation and the poverty it leads to by ending mail service. Imagine having to drive 20-100 miles to pick up a small package at the nearest FedEx center which you would have to do if you live in places like Eastern Oregon or the desert SW or even upstate NY. We have privatized and ended the idea of universal Air service to much of America because of the god of profit. A lot of America wouldn't have electrical service or phones that worked unless "socialist" electric phone co-ops weren't created in the 1930s. Although most of America lives in vast metro areas we shouldn't let that minority who lives outside to be the prevebial outsider looking in at something he or she can't have because someone might have to spend a little money to provide it.
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Old 02-06-2013, 10:16 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Sadly the USPS is still behind on the times. They are surviving on junk mail.
Well, the Post Office isn't allowed to offer an Internet service. You can't even go in a post office and get wi-fi.
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